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    WASHINGTON: The Obama administration notified the Congress on Friday that it planned to sell eight F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan.

    The proposed deal will now go through a 30-day notification period after which it will be finalised.

    Earlier this week, the US State Department informed Congress that it was committed to improving Pakistan’s precision strike capability, which was seen as a veiled reference to F-16 fighter jets.

    And on Thursday, a State Department spokesman, Mark Toner, said at a news briefing that US weapon sales to Pakistan contributed to the fight against terrorism and furthered Amer*ica’s foreign policy interests.

    The remarks followed a move by some US lawmakers and a campaign in the US media to stop the Obama administration from selling eight F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan.

    Although Congress has delayed the proposed sale, the administration still seems interested in pushing it through, insisting that it’s in vital US interests to do so.

    At the State Department news briefing, an Indian journalist asked spokesman Mark Toner if US Secretary of State John Kerry had received a letter Republican Senator Bob Corker sent to him on Tuesday, asking him to stop the proposed sale to Pakistan.

    “As a matter of policy, we don’t comment on proposed arms sales or transfers or even our preliminary consultations with the Hill, with Capitol Hill, prior to any formal congressional notification,” Mr Toner replied.

    But he offered to address the broader issue of US security assistance to Pakistan, saying: “We are committed to working with Congress to deliver security assistance to our partners and our allies that we believe furthers US foreign policy interests by building the capacity to meet shared security challenges.”

    Responding to another question about terrorists using safe havens inside Pakistan to attack US troops in Afghanistan, Mr Toner said: “We believe US security assistance to Pakistan actually contributes to their counterterrorism and counterinsurgency operations.”

    Further explaining this point, he added that such operations “reduce the ability of militants to use Pakistani territory as a safe haven to carry out terrorist attacks and as a base of support for the insurgency in Afghanistan.”

    That’s why, he said, the United States believes “these operations are in the interests of both Pakistan and the United States and in the interests of the region more broadly.”

    Asked if he had any figures to back up the claim that US assistance to Pakistan had reduced terrorist activities, Mr Toner said he did not have such figures in front of him but noted that no country in the region had been more touched by terrorism than Pakistan.

    “We believe it’s in our vital national security interests to support Pakistan in carrying out its efforts to destroy these terrorist networks, and we believe it’s an important partner in the region in achieving a stable and secure Afghanistan,” said the US official.

    Mr Toner said the US also welcomed Pakistan’s efforts to support Afghan-led reconciliation talks. He noted that recently, Pakistan hosted the Heart of Asia ministerial and two of the first three meetings of the Quadrilateral Coordination Group.

    “And they have carried out multiple operations against some of these terrorist networks that are operating on their soil,” he said.

    “We believe that destroying, eliminating those networks is in our national security interests, as well as the security interests of the region,” he added.

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    'Disappointed' India summons US ambassador over sale of F-16s to Pakistan

    NEW DELHI: A 'disappointed' India summoned on Saturday United States envoy in New Delhi, Richard Verma, over Obama administration's decision to sell eight Lockheed Martin F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan, along with training, radar and other equipment, a deal worth $699 million.

    "We are disappointed at the decision of the Obama Administration to notify the sale of F-16 aircraft to Pakistan," Indian External Affairs Ministry spokesman Vikas Swarup said on Twitter.

    "The US ambassador will be summoned by the ministry of external affairs to convey our displeasure."

    Indian Foreign Secretary S. Jaishankar later met the US ambassador at the ministry to convey India's disapproval of the deal to Washington, in a meeting which lasted 45 minutes, reported The Hindu.


    The Obama administration notified the Congress on Friday that it planned to sell eight F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan, with a State Department spokesman saying that US weapon sales to Pakistan contributed to the fight against terrorism and furthered Amer*ica’s foreign policy interests.

    The remarks followed a move by some US lawmakers and a campaign in the US media to stop the Obama administration from selling eight F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan.

    Although Congress has delayed the proposed sale, the administration still seems interested in pushing it through, insisting that it’s in vital US interests to do so.

    "We disagree with their rationale that such arms transfers help to combat terrorism," Swarup said. "The record of the last many years in this regard speaks for itself."

    'In US security interests to support Pakistan counter-terrorism efforts'
    When asked at a State Department news briefing if he had any figures to back up the claim that US assistance to Pakistan had reduced terrorist activities, spokesman Mark Toner said he did not have such figures in front of him but noted that no country in the region had been more touched by terrorism than Pakistan.

    “We believe it’s in our vital national security interests to support Pakistan in carrying out its efforts to destroy these terrorist networks, and we believe it’s an important partner in the region in achieving a stable and secure Afghanistan,” said the US official.

    The F-16 aircraft would allow Pakistan's Air Force to operate in all kinds of weather, at night, as well as "enhance Pakistan's ability to conduct counter-insurgency and counterterrorism operations," the US Defence Security Cooperation Agency, which coordinates such foreign arms sales, said in a statement.

    The proposed deal will now go through a 30-day notification period after which it will be finalised.

    The new aircraft will add to Pakistan’s sizable force of fighter jets which includes more than 70 F-16s and dozens of French and Chinese attack aircraft, the report said.

    In May 2015, the US handed over to Pakistan over 14 combat aircraft, 59 military trainer jets and 374 armoured personnel carriers, Dawn newspaper had reported. The weapons supplied to Pakistan were earlier used by American forces in Afghanistan and Iraq.

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    India ‘disappointed’ over F-16s sale to Pakistan

    India on Saturday expressed ‘disappointment’ over the United States’ decision to sell eight F16 fighter jets to Pakistan.

    India Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar summoned US Ambassador Richard Verma to convey India’s “displeasure”, Hindustan Times reported.

    “We are disappointed at the decision of the Obama Administration to notify the sale of F-16 aircrafts to Pakistan. We disagree with their rationale that such arms transfers help to combat terrorism,’ the external affairs ministry said in a statement.

    The Pentagon’s Defence Security Cooperation Agency said it had notified lawmakers about the possible sale on Thursday. It said the sale would improve Pakistan’s capability to meet current and future security threats.

    F-16s would allow Pakistan’s Air Force to operate in all-weather environments and at night, while improving its self-defense capability and bolstering its ability to conduct counter-insurgency and counter-terrorism operations.

    US lawmakers have 30 days to block the sale, although such action is rare since deals are well-vetted before any formal notification.

    One U.S. official said the administration was convinced that F-16s were the right platform to support Pakistan’s counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency operations.

    “These operations reduce the ability of militants to use Pakistani territory as a safe haven for terrorism and a base of support for the insurgency in Afghanistan, which is in the national interests of both Pakistan and the United States, and in the interest of the region more broadly,” the official said.

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    US' Proposed Sale Of F-16s To Pakistan Likely To Face Resistance


    US' Proposed Sale Of F-16s To Pakistan Likely To Face Resistance
    World | Press Trust of India | Updated: February 13, 2016 15:28 IST
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    WASHINGTON: The Obama Administration's proposal to sell eight F-16 jets to Pakistan is unlikely to have a smooth sailing in the US Congress with both Republicans and Democrats having raised concerns over Pakistan providing safe haven to terror groups acting against India and Afghanistan.

    In the last few days, influential lawmakers have sent a flurry of letters to US President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry expressing their opposition to the Administration decision to sell F-16s to Pakistan.

    They told the White House and the State Department that they would work to ensure that Pakistan does not get these fighter jets until terrorist safe havens exist there and state actors support terror groups.

    They also voiced concern over potential of the Pakistani military to use these F-16s to deliver nuclear weapons in a conflict scenario with India.

    "While it is my intention at this time to clear the sale of eight F-1 6 aircraft to Pakistan, I do not plan to support the expenditure of the very limited Foreign Military Financing (FMF) account to finance this deal, now or in the future," Senator Bob Corker, Chairman of the powerful Senate Committee on Foreign Relations said in a letter to Kerry on February 9.

    "I reiterate my present hold on the release of funds via CN 15-319. I may reconsider my blanket hold on US FMF assistance should the Pakistanis make progress on addressing my significant concerns about their support for the Haqqani network. But but for now if they wish to purchase this military equipment, they will do so without a subsidy from the American taxpayer," Mr Corker, a Republican party member, told Mr Kerry in his letter.

    The State Department today notified the Congress of its determination to sell eight F-16s to Pakistan.

    The Congress has 30 days' time to act on the proposal. In case of any objection, the process would be lengthier and complicated as the proposed sale would be debated and voted in the Congress. Normally this kind of situation does not arise as in case of opposition to major arms deals, both the Congressional leaders and the administration mutually work together to arrive at consensus.

    "The Administration's proposed sale of eight new F-16 combat aircraft to Pakistan raises substantial concerns," Congressman Matt Salmon, Chairman of the Asia and Pacific Subcommittee of the House Foreign Affairs Committee told US President Barack Obama in a letter dated February 10.

    "As several other Members of Congress and numerous independent experts have argued, providing such a significant upgrade to Pakistan's offensive military capabilities is extremely problematic in light of the Pakistani military's widely alleged complicity in terrorist violence, as well as the potential for the Pakistani military to use these F-16s to deliver nuclear weapons in a conflict scenario with India. I strongly urge the Administration to reconsider the sale," Mr Salmon, another Republican leader, wrote.

    And in a joint letter to Mr Kerry, influential lawmakers Ted Poe from the Republican party and Tulsi Gabbard from the Democratic party voices their serious our serious concerns regarding the potential sale of eight Block C/D 52 F-16 aircraft to the Government of Pakistan.

    "Given that the United States has already supplied Pakistan with over USD 30 billion in foreign assistance from FY2002-FY2016 and Pakistan still has not changed its behaviour in any significant way, it is unconvincing that giving Pakistan more taxpayer dollars to finance the purchase of F-16s will somehow break that trend," they wrote.

    "Pakistan has the ability to become an integral partner in the international community and be part of the solution on ending terrorism and the instability that plagues the region. Until that time comes, however, we urge you not to use taxpayer money to finance the sale of F-16s to Pakistan," Mr Poe and Gabbard said.

    Pakistan has not shown that it is a reliable partner to the United States and has actively undermined American national interests in the region.

    Until Pakistan is able to demonstrate meaningful changes in its actions, it is inappropriate to finance the sale with US taxpayer funding, they argued.

    Pakistan has long harboured and provided safe haven to terrorist groups that launch destabilising attacks on its neighbours, India and Afghanistan, they said.

    "The Pakistani and Taliban-linked terrorist group Jaish-e-Mohammed, listed by the US government since 2001 as a designated foreign terrorist organisation, is believed to be behind the recent attack on India's Pathankot Air Force base, which killed seven Indian nationals," Ms Gabbard and Mr Poe said.

    "On February 3, Hafiz Saeed, one of the masterminds of the 2008 Mumbai terrorist attacks in which six US citizens were killed, called for additional attacks against India.

    Despite being designated as a terrorist organisation by the United Nations, a USD10 million bounty on his head by the US government and pleas from India to rein in Saeed, he remains free," they argued.

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    WASHINGTON: The Obama Administration's proposal to sell eight F-16 jets to Pakistan is unlikely to have a smooth sailing in the US Congress with both Republicans and Democrats having raised concerns over Pakistan providing safe haven to terror groups acting against India and Afghanistan.

    In the last few days, influential lawmakers have sent a flurry of letters to US President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry expressing their opposition to the Administration decision to sell F-16s to Pakistan.

    They told the White House and the State Department that they would work to ensure that Pakistan does not get these fighter jets until terrorist safe havens exist there and state actors support terror groups.

    They also voiced concern over potential of the Pakistani military to use these F-16s to deliver nuclear weapons in a conflict scenario with India.

    "While it is my intention at this time to clear the sale of eight F-1 6 aircraft to Pakistan, I do not plan to support the expenditure of the very limited Foreign Military Financing (FMF) account to finance this deal, now or in the future," Senator Bob Corker, Chairman of the powerful Senate Committee on Foreign Relations said in a letter to Kerry on February 9.

    "I reiterate my present hold on the release of funds via CN 15-319. I may reconsider my blanket hold on US FMF assistance should the Pakistanis make progress on addressing my significant concerns about their support for the Haqqani network. But but for now if they wish to purchase this military equipment, they will do so without a subsidy from the American taxpayer," Mr Corker, a Republican party member, told Mr Kerry in his letter.

    The State Department today notified the Congress of its determination to sell eight F-16s to Pakistan.

    The Congress has 30 days' time to act on the proposal. In case of any objection, the process would be lengthier and complicated as the proposed sale would be debated and voted in the Congress. Normally this kind of situation does not arise as in case of opposition to major arms deals, both the Congressional leaders and the administration mutually work together to arrive at consensus.

    "The Administration's proposed sale of eight new F-16 combat aircraft to Pakistan raises substantial concerns," Congressman Matt Salmon, Chairman of the Asia and Pacific Subcommittee of the House Foreign Affairs Committee told US President Barack Obama in a letter dated February 10.

    "As several other Members of Congress and numerous independent experts have argued, providing such a significant upgrade to Pakistan's offensive military capabilities is extremely problematic in light of the Pakistani military's widely alleged complicity in terrorist violence, as well as the potential for the Pakistani military to use these F-16s to deliver nuclear weapons in a conflict scenario with India. I strongly urge the Administration to reconsider the sale," Mr Salmon, another Republican leader, wrote.

    And in a joint letter to Mr Kerry, influential lawmakers Ted Poe from the Republican party and Tulsi Gabbard from the Democratic party voices their serious our serious concerns regarding the potential sale of eight Block C/D 52 F-16 aircraft to the Government of Pakistan.

    "Given that the United States has already supplied Pakistan with over USD 30 billion in foreign assistance from FY2002-FY2016 and Pakistan still has not changed its behaviour in any significant way, it is unconvincing that giving Pakistan more taxpayer dollars to finance the purchase of F-16s will somehow break that trend," they wrote.

    "Pakistan has the ability to become an integral partner in the international community and be part of the solution on ending terrorism and the instability that plagues the region. Until that time comes, however, we urge you not to use taxpayer money to finance the sale of F-16s to Pakistan," Mr Poe and Gabbard said.

    Pakistan has not shown that it is a reliable partner to the United States and has actively undermined American national interests in the region.

    Until Pakistan is able to demonstrate meaningful changes in its actions, it is inappropriate to finance the sale with US taxpayer funding, they argued.

    Pakistan has long harboured and provided safe haven to terrorist groups that launch destabilising attacks on its neighbours, India and Afghanistan, they said.

    "The Pakistani and Taliban-linked terrorist group Jaish-e-Mohammed, listed by the US government since 2001 as a designated foreign terrorist organisation, is believed to be behind the recent attack on India's Pathankot Air Force base, which killed seven Indian nationals," Ms Gabbard and Mr Poe said.

    "On February 3, Hafiz Saeed, one of the masterminds of the 2008 Mumbai terrorist attacks in which six US citizens were killed, called for additional attacks against India.

    Despite being designated as a terrorist organisation by the United Nations, a USD10 million bounty on his head by the US government and pleas from India to rein in Saeed, he remains free," they argued.
    Most Pakistanis will be happy either way. If the deal goes through then fine. We will have a reliable fighter we have more than 30 years of experience with,and have all the required expertise and facilities.
    But if the deal doesnt go through we are already making JF 17 at a far lesser cost and we can always buy J 10c and F 31,again much cheaper than 87 million USD per F 16 this deal is about.
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    India on Saturday expressed ‘disappointment’ over the United States’ decision to sell eight F16 fighter jets to Pakistan.

    India Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar summoned US Ambassador Richard Verma to convey India’s “displeasure”, Hindustan Times reported.

    “We are disappointed at the decision of the Obama Administration to notify the sale of F-16 aircrafts to Pakistan. We disagree with their rationale that such arms transfers help to combat terrorism,’ the external affairs ministry said in a statement.

    The Pentagon’s Defence Security Cooperation Agency said it had notified lawmakers about the possible sale on Thursday. It said the sale would improve Pakistan’s capability to meet current and future security threats.

    F-16s would allow Pakistan’s Air Force to operate in all-weather environments and at night, while improving its self-defense capability and bolstering its ability to conduct counter-insurgency and counter-terrorism operations.

    US lawmakers have 30 days to block the sale, although such action is rare since deals are well-vetted before any formal notification.

    One U.S. official said the administration was convinced that F-16s were the right platform to support Pakistan’s counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency operations.

    “These operations reduce the ability of militants to use Pakistani territory as a safe haven for terrorism and a base of support for the insurgency in Afghanistan, which is in the national interests of both Pakistan and the United States, and in the interest of the region more broadly,” the official said.

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    Plus so much interference by India in USAs internal matters is likely to **** off many.

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    India for the 1st time is applying pressure on American govt. such pressure tactics can be used to increase bargaining.
    India knows that Pak will get these weapons as long as US is stuck in afgani mess.
    Pak have trapped them and extracted 35 billion $ despite supporting terrorist who kills American and afgani soldiers.
    India has no problem with pak weapon purchase if pak gives up cross border terrorism in region.
    Pak state continues to be involved in nurturing terror camps.David headley/Dawood geelani have exposed nexus of pak army with LeT terrorist.
    If india is supporting Usa in south china sea then it expects American to not provide free doles to a country that ll use those resources to nurture anti indian groups from its soil.

    Indians have problem with American aid being misused to support a irresponsible state

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohan Tiwari View Post
    India for the 1st time is applying pressure on American govt. such pressure tactics can be used to increase bargaining.
    India knows that Pak will get these weapons as long as US is stuck in afgani mess.
    Pak have trapped them and extracted 35 billion $ despite supporting terrorist who kills American and afgani soldiers.
    India has no problem with pak weapon purchase if pak gives up cross border terrorism in region.
    Pak state continues to be involved in nurturing terror camps.David headley/Dawood geelani have exposed nexus of pak army with LeT terrorist.
    If india is supporting Usa in south china sea then it expects American to not provide free doles to a country that ll use those resources to nurture anti indian groups from its soil.

    Indians have problem with American aid being misused to support a irresponsible state
    For Pakistan supporting Kashmiri struggle against Indian struggle isnt supporting terrorism,simply because we have our claim on Kashmir. That support is unlikely to stop,no matter what India does. The sooner India understands that,the better.
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    For Pakistan supporting Kashmiri struggle against Indian struggle isnt supporting terrorism,simply because we have our claim on Kashmir. That support is unlikely to stop,no matter what India does. The sooner India understands that,the better.
    Let's see how long can pak sustain as a united country.
    Supporting those terrorist will force india to go all out in reviving its deep state

    Modi govt would be verly lethal if pak doesn't stop using its territories.
    india is prepared for war over pak side of kashmir till eternity . Let's see how long can pak sustain its arms spending viz viz india.

    American aid and support to pak ll freeze after they vacate Afghanistan.
    Pak can count these freebies for another 2yrs at max

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    India Disappointed over US Decision to sell F-16 Fighter Jets to Pakistan, will Summon Envoy Richard Verma



    NEW DELHI: India, disappointed with Obama regime's notification to sell F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan, has decided to summon US envoy Richard Verma to lodge protest over the issue.
    "We are disappointed at the decision of the Obama Administration to notify the sale of F-16 aircrafts to Pakistan. We disagree with their rationale that such arms transfers help to combat terrorism.

    The record of the last many years in this regard speaks for itself. The US Ambassador will be summoned by the Ministry of External Affairs to convey our displeasure," the MEA emphasized in a strongly worded statement on Saturday. The deal is valued at $ 699 million.


    On several occasions in the past under the UPA government and during earlier governments Delhi had expressed its displeasure over F-16 sale to Pakistan which it thinks could be used against India.
    This decision by the Obama administration comes in the backdrop of serious differences between US Congress and government on the sale of F-16 jets to Islamabad.

    As late as last Tuesday Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Corker wrote to Secretary of State John Kerry he would block the Obama administration's subsidized sale of up to eight F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan. In a letter on Feb 9, Corker spoke about Islamabad's relationship with the Haqqani network.

    Last month other US Congressmen had also opposed sale of F-16 jets to Islamabad. "I don't know how an F-16, with all of its hardware on there for combat can be used for humanitarian aid. If they were buying C-130s ... I could see those being used for humanitarian aid. But F-16! It's not really humanitarian aid," Congressman Ted Poe had said. "Those F-16s and the military equipment that we are providing Pakistan are being used against their own people, just like they did against the people over there in Bangladesh," said another Congressman Dan Rohrabacher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohan Tiwari View Post
    India for the 1st time is applying pressure on American govt. such pressure tactics can be used to increase bargaining.
    India knows that Pak will get these weapons as long as US is stuck in afgani mess.
    Pak have trapped them and extracted 35 billion $ despite supporting terrorist who kills American and afgani soldiers.
    India has no problem with pak weapon purchase if pak gives up cross border terrorism in region.
    Pak state continues to be involved in nurturing terror camps.David headley/Dawood geelani have exposed nexus of pak army with LeT terrorist.
    If india is supporting Usa in south china sea then it expects American to not provide free doles to a country that ll use those resources to nurture anti indian groups from its soil.

    Indians have problem with American aid being misused to support a irresponsible state
    India yet again trying to promote its own self importance. People like you ought to realize no one gives a sg1t what India wants and thinks. Accept this as a slap on your stupid face.
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    India yet again trying to promote its own self importance. People like you ought to realize no one gives a sg1t what India wants and thinks. Accept this as a slap on your stupid face.
    In 2016,India is 7th largest economy via Nominal terms and it is only growing into top 4 club with in 5-6years- India will continue to pressurize US & ensure that terrorist promoters remain isolated---Look how China force US to deny weapons to Taiwan--In next 10yrs, except China:Pak would have no takers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohan Tiwari View Post
    In 2016,India is 7th largest economy via Nominal terms and it is only growing into top 4 club with in 5-6years- India will continue to pressurize US & ensure that terrorist promoters remain isolated---Look how China force US to deny weapons to Taiwan--In next 10yrs, except China:Pak would have no takers
    Pakistan has faced the types of terror India hasn't seen yet, first attacks from India onto a newly independent Pakistan, continue to 1965 to 1971, then India funding astray sects of Taliban, providing them money and weaponry first to fight against Pak Army, then to kill school and college children.

    I don't argue on what time you choose, but, the places you are now picking will hurt you in the future, one thing to be noted here is that those who make decisions at Pakistani side are Muslim and we Muslims do not pick women and children as a target Insha-Allah, civilians in general are not our target, can never be! its against the teachings of Islam.

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