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    Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    U.S. Senator Ted Cruz soundly defeated billionaire Donald Trump in Iowa's Republican nominating contest on Monday, upending the party's presidential race and creating a three-way competition with establishment candidate Senator Marco Rubio.

    A conservative lawmaker from Texas, Cruz won the first state Republican contest with 28 percent of the vote in Iowa compared to 24 percent for businessman Trump. Rubio, a U.S. senator from Florida, came in third with 23 percent, making a stronger-than-expected finish.

    On the Democratic side, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont came in deadlocked, both receiving roughly 50 percent in a race that was too close to call. Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, declared the result a "virtual tie."

    Cruz's win and Rubio's strong showing could dent the momentum for Trump, whose candidacy has alarmed the Republican establishment and been marked by controversies ranging from his calls to ban Muslims temporarily from entering the United States to promising to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexican border.

    "Tonight is a victory for courageous conservatives across Iowa and all across this great nation," Cruz, 45, said during a victory speech lasting more than 30 minutes.

    An uncharacteristically humbled Trump, 69, congratulated Cruz and said he still expected to win the Republican nomination. Opinion polls show Trump leading nationally and in New Hampshire, which holds the next nominating contest.

    "I'm just honored," Trump said.

    Unusually large crowds poured into schools, churches and other venues for the so-called caucuses, in which voters gather together to select a candidate.

    Cruz's well established get-out-the-vote effort helped overcome the enthusiasm from large crowds that have shown up for Trump's rallies. Trump skipped the last Republican debate before the caucus because of a dispute with host FOX News. A Trump adviser said his second-place finish was expected.

    Iowa has held the first contest in the country since the early 1970s, giving it extra weight in the electoral process that can translate into momentum for winning candidates.


    Rubio, 44, may benefit from that momentum as much as Cruz, who was buoyed by evangelical support and thanked God for his win. The Florida lawmaker established himself as the mainstream alternative to the two front-running rivals.

    “Rubio has staying power. He weathered $30 million in negative ads and late deciders broke his way due to his upbeat and optimistic close,” said Republican strategist Scott Reed.

    CLINTON SIGHS, SANDERS SMILES

    The results of the Democratic race put pressure on Clinton to siphon support away from Sanders, who has won over politically left-leaning voters with his promises to take on Wall Street and start fresh with healthcare reform.

    Clinton, 68, said she was breathing a "big sigh of relief" after the results. She lost Iowa to then-Senator Barack Obama in the 2008 Democratic race and never recovered.

    The former first lady congratulated Sanders and did not declare victory in her remarks. Her spokesman Brian Fallon, however, said numbers showed she would emerge with two more delegates from Iowa than Sanders, a victory. Delegates determine the party's nominee at a convention in July.

    "It is rare that we have the opportunity we do now to have a real contest of ideas,” Clinton said with her husband, former President Bill Clinton, and daughter Chelsea joining her on stage.

    Sanders, 74, declared himself overwhelmed. The lawmaker, who smiled broadly as he addressed supporters, is leading in New Hampshire, home to next week's second contest, but trails Clinton in other states such as South Carolina, which holds the third contest.

    "Nine months ago, we came to this beautiful state, we had no political organization, we had no money, we had no name recognition, and we were taking on the most powerful political organization in the United States of America," Sanders said.


    Former Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley, who had trouble gaining any traction in the Democratic race, suspended his campaign after coming in third in Iowa with 0.6 percent.

    The 2016 election is shaping up to be the year of angry voters as disgruntled Americans worry about issues such as immigration, terrorism, income inequality and healthcare, fueling the campaigns of Trump, Sanders and Cruz.

    Republican establishment candidates more traditional than Rubio did not fare well in Iowa. Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush took 2.8 percent, Ohio Governor John Kasich took 1.9 percent, and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie took 1.8 percent.

    Surgeon Ben Carson placed fourth among Republicans with 9 percent while former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee said he was suspending his campaign for the party's nomination. Huckabee won the Iowa caucus in 2008.

    Market reaction in Asia to the results was muted, with U.S. stock futures SPc1 down around half a percent.

    “Financial markets might be more comfortable with Hillary (Clinton) than Bernie (Sanders)," said Sean Callow, a strategist at Westpac Bank in Australia.

    "There would have to be at least some jitters over the guy who plans to break up the big banks. But it's probably too early to expect the U.S. presidential race to have an impact on the U.S. stock market."

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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    Trump ran and refused to attend the Iowa debates when a woman moderator asked some tough questions concerning women.

    This foolish racist man should not, at any cost, win the Republican nomination.

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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    With Iowa, the race becomes more serious: posturing to the media becomes less important than appealing to voters.
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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    Quote Originally Posted by Solomon2 View Post
    With Iowa, the race becomes more serious: posturing to the media becomes less important than appealing to voters.
    Would you say this may signal the end of Trumps chances?

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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    Quote Originally Posted by Wattan View Post
    Would you say this may signal the end of Trumps chances?
    Too soon to say.
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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    Quote Originally Posted by Wattan View Post
    Would you say this may signal the end of Trumps chances?
    He is an excellent salesman and put a positive spin, even on a loss

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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    Quote Originally Posted by Khanda View Post
    He is an excellent salesman and put a positive spin, even on a loss
    Should have consulted Imran for a proper reply...dhandhli dhandhli

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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    I dont think it will matter much which muppet gets elected

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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    I am surprised with all the hype that Trump didn't do better media reports had suggested it was a done deal

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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    Quote Originally Posted by Solomon2 View Post
    With Iowa, the race becomes more serious: posturing to the media becomes less important than appealing to voters.
    Whats the significance of Iowa?

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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    Quote Originally Posted by Nabeel View Post
    I am surprised with all the hype that Trump didn't do better media reports had suggested it was a done deal
    Candidates like Trump sometimes do well at rallies and campaigning but then when voters are in front of the ballot box they think, "Hey, it fine to support outrageous so-and-so as a protest against the existing order, but do I really WANT such a man as president? Is there a better choice?"

    Many of Trump's positions are standard stuff of the Democratic Party. Cruz, on the other hand, wants to overthrow many special economic interests that he thinks damage the nation's economic and political efficiency.

    In New Hampshire - more important imo because its voters take their job more seriously - Trump as of yesterday was ahead of Cruz by twenty points. But winning Iowa means a lot more money and media attention for the Cruz campaign. Cruz could lose N.H. and still win the nomination. And maybe the Republicans of N.H. will decide, as the Iowans apparently did, that supporting Trump is good to scare the Establishment but a vote for Cruz would be a real vote for change.
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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    [MENTION=1871]Solomon2[/MENTION]

    Who IYO do you feel is going to be the best candidate for the Democrats?

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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    Trump for President.

    Trump all the way.

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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    Quote Originally Posted by Solomon2 View Post
    With Iowa, the race becomes more serious: posturing to the media becomes less important than appealing to voters.
    Mature and serious voters evident. I noticed Sanders literally came in from nowhere.
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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    Quote Originally Posted by Solomon2 View Post
    Too soon to say.
    Trump is already crying foul about the outcome of the vote! See today's newes media.
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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    Trump is coming to face reality. He will lose.

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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    Trump is what America needs as a leader.

    Come the crunch, Americans will face up to that.

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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    Quote Originally Posted by vsdoc View Post
    Trump is what America needs as a leader.

    Come the crunch, Americans will face up to that.
    Trump has no political experience whatsoever. He's never held political office. He will if elected need to handle the senate and congress. Presidents generally don't draft legislation. Despite his business experience ( even though he has been declared bankrupt more than twice) he will need deal with heads of government.

    Not just Trump but the GOP rhetoric about making America great again is just moonshine. America is a declining global power.

    If Trump behaves true to form, if elected to President he is more likely to do more damage than good.

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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    Quote Originally Posted by KingKong View Post
    [MENTION=1871]Solomon2[/MENTION]

    Who IYO do you feel is going to be the best candidate for the Democrats?
    By "best candidates for the Democrats" are you thinking of "best candidate" as in "best medicine" i.e. to heal the Party, or "best candidate" as in "who Democrats find the most fun?"
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    Re: Republican Cruz bests Trump in Iowa race, Clinton and Sanders tie

    Quote Originally Posted by SHAMAS View Post
    Trump has no political experience whatsoever. He's never held political office. He will if elected need to handle the senate and congress. Presidents generally don't draft legislation. Despite his business experience ( even though he has been declared bankrupt more than twice) he will need deal with heads of government.

    Not just Trump but the GOP rhetoric about making America great again is just moonshine. America is a declining global power.

    If Trump behaves true to form, if elected to President he is more likely to do more damage than good.
    Like him or not, he seems to have created huge waves in the election campaign and raised vital issues that Americans seem to have appreciated.

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