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    PM, COAS to visit Saudi Arabia, Iran on Monday

    Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif accompanied by Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif will visit Saudi Arabia and Iran on Monday to help reduce diplomatic tensions between the two Islamic countries.

    The Prime Minister on Monday will depart for Riyadh, where he will meet with Saudi King Saudi King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud. He will also hold meetings with high Saudi officials.

    On Tuesday, Nawaz Sharif will meet with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani in Tehran.

    Besides the army chief, the Prime Minister will also be accompanied by his Advisor on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz and Special Assistant Tariq Fatmi.

    It may be added that the ties between the two countries were already strained over the war in Syria. Riyadh severed the diplomatic ties after ransacking of its embassy in Tehran by protestors in the aftermath of execution of a cleric Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr in Saudi Arabia.

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    PM and army chief to visit Saudi Arabia, Iran to ease tension

    ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif will be embarking on a visit to Saudi Arabia and Iran from Monday January 18 to diffuse tension between the two countries that spiralled after the execution of Shia cleric Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr in Saudi Arabia.

    Official sources confirmed that the top civilian and military leaders would pay a day-long visit to Saudia Arabia on 18th January to meet Saudi King Salman and will discuss with him the latest situation in the Middle East and the kingdom's relations with Iran.

    The sources added that after the trip to Saudi Arabia, the next stopover will be in Tehran where meetings will be held with the top Iranian leadership aimed at defusing tension with its arch rival KSA.

    Saudi Arabia and fellow-Sunni Bahrain cut ties with Iran, a few days days after Iranian demonstrators stormed the Saudi embassy in Tehran in protest at Riyadh's execution of prominent cleric Sheikh Nimr.

    Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and some other states broke off ties with Iran over the attack. The United Arab Emirates downgraded relations while some others recalled their envoys in protest.

    The Iranian government quickly distanced itself from the attack, saying the protesters had entered the Saudi embassy despite widespread efforts by the police to stop them.

    Last week, Saudi Defence Minister Mohammad bin Salman visited Islamabad to discuss Saudi Arabia's military alliance against the self-styled Islamic State, and met with Army chief General Raheel Sharif who assured him of a “strong response” to threats to the kingdom’s territorial integrity without committing troops to the alliance.

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    Re: PM, COAS to visit Saudi Arabia, Iran on Monday

    Pakistan negotiate peace between the 2 then this indeed will be a commendable achievement.

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    Re: PM, COAS to visit Saudi Arabia, Iran on Monday

    Pakistan is equally important to both. If we can broker a peace, it will be a great boost for regional security and stability.
    Only Pakistan and Turkey have this kind of political clout over both countries.
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    Re: PM, COAS to visit Saudi Arabia, Iran on Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Pakistan is equally important to both. If we can broker a peace, it will be a great boost for regional security and stability.
    Only Pakistan and Turkey have this kind of political clout over both countries.
    Not sure about that I think iranians might be wary of Erdogan

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    Re: PM, COAS to visit Saudi Arabia, Iran on Monday

    Both countries are slippery as hell. Pakistan must be very careful that it must do no more than mediate and not get embroiled with either

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    Re: PM, COAS to visit Saudi Arabia, Iran on Monday

    threads merged

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    Re: PM, COAS to visit Saudi Arabia, Iran on Monday

    Lets hope Pakistan can play honest broker and diffuse tensions between the two countries

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    Re: PM, COAS to visit Saudi Arabia, Iran on Monday

    Interesting Chinese president will also visit both countries soon probably with similar agenda.

    Meetings with with Saudi King Salman and President Hasan Rouhani have been comfirmed

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    Re: PM, COAS to visit Saudi Arabia, Iran on Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by Wattan View Post
    Interesting Chinese president will also visit both countries soon probably with similar agenda.

    Meetings with with Saudi King Salman and President Hasan Rouhani have been comfirmed
    I think Pakistan have played well in walking the tight rope lets hope they manage to diffuse what needs to be diffused

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    Re: PM, COAS to visit Saudi Arabia, Iran on Monday

    Pakistan should help Saudia in this hour of their need and save them from Iranian menace. Iran helped Houti of yemen to overthrow a legitimate government,and likewise poking their nose in many wars and not innocent at all. Comparing Saudia with Iran. Saudia has always been of greater help for us and deserves our support. Iran is a shia supremacist country who wants their shia ideology to overcome Muslim world when shia are a ,minority.

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    Re: PM, COAS to visit Saudi Arabia, Iran on Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by safriz View Post
    Pakistan should help Saudia in this hour of their need and save them from Iranian menace. Iran helped Houti of yemen to overthrow a legitimate government,and likewise poking their nose in many wars and not innocent at all. Comparing Saudia with Iran. Saudia has always been of greater help for us and deserves our support. Iran is a shia supremacist country who wants their shia ideology to overcome Muslim world when shia are a ,minority.
    That would be the height of stupidy. India Iran relations are often used by Arab lovers among Pakistanis as a reason to be unfriendly with Iran.

    They conveniently ignore the fact that Arab states have their own good ties with India also:

    India and Saudi Arabia Sign Defense Cooperation Pact
    The agreement will lead to expanded defense cooperation between New Delhi and Riyadh.


    By Ankit Panda
    February 27, 2014

    India and Saudi Arabia signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) on Defense Cooperation on Wednesday in New Delhi. The MoU is the result of Prince Salman bin Abdulaziz al Saud’s visit to India. al Saud is the crown prince, the deputy prime minister, and the defense minister of Saudi Arabia. His visit to India marks the highest-level visit by a Saudi leader to India since King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz al Saud visited the country in 2006.


    The agreement was signed between Dr. Nizar Bin Obaid Madani, Saudi Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, and Jitendra Singh, Indian Minister of State for Defense. The two sides additionally discussed a range of bilateral issues and intend to deepen their cooperation as part of their strategic partnership. According to Livemint, the MoU “will allow exchange of defense-related information, military training and education as well as cooperation in areas varying from hydrography and security to logistics.”

    The first indicator that India and Saudi Arabia were serious about cooperating on defense matters came in 2012 when the first meeting of the India-Saudi Arabia joint committee on defense cooperation took place in New Delhi. Back then, the two expressed interest in defense exchanges and increasing military-to-military contacts. The 2012 meeting was spearheaded by Saudi Major General Suleiman Saleh al-Khalifa, Chief of Armed Forces Operations.

    The cornerstone of the strategic partnership between India and Saudi Arabia in recent years has been the 2010 Riyadh Declaration. Signed between King Abdullah and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, the declaration set forth a roadmap for a closer Saudi-Indian bilateral relationship even though it was relatively light on defense cooperation. The Riyah Declaration built on the 2006 Delhi Declaration which was signed during King Abdullah’s trip to New Delhi. The Delhi Declaration was the first major bilateral interaction between India and Saudi Arabia; both sides acknowledged it to herald a “new era” in Indo-Saudi ties.

    The two found it difficult to forge closer ties earlier given Saudi Arabia’s support for Pakistan both materially and diplomatically. Saudi Arabia supported Pakistan during the India-Pakistan War of 1971. King Abdullah’s 2006 visit to India and the Delhi Declaration saw the bilateral relationship develop independently of Saudi Arabia’s relationship with Pakistan, which continues to be close. India’s interest in Saudi Arabia stems from the latter’s role as a major energy supplier and regional power. Additionally, approximately 2.88 million Indian nationals live in Saudi Arabia, comprising the largest expatriate community there.

    For Saudi Arabia, the defense pact with India comes a month after it concluded a defense cooperation agreement with Indonesia, signaling increased attention eastwards by Riyadh. Riyadh traditionally pursues close relations with significant Muslim countries across the world. Although Muslims are a minority in India – comprising around 12 percent of the total population – India has the third largest Muslim population globally in absolute numbers. Approximately 100 million Muslims live in India according to the 2010 Pew Research Estimate.

    India’s foreign policy in the Middle East continues to remain relatively independent of the region’s geopolitical dynamics. The MoU on defense cooperation with Saudi Arabia comes at a time when India’s relations with Israel and Iran continue to remain warm.

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    Obama detailed statement about Iran.

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    Good to see Iran and America resolving outstanding issues. I have a feeling the Iranians have got a good deal

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    How much of their soul Iranians had sold for the deal? Such deals always come at great cost. Now Iran will play in Israel and Indian hands. Pakistan should be cautious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by safriz View Post
    How much of their soul Iranians had sold for the deal? Such deals always come at great cost. Now Iran will play in Israel and Indian hands. Pakistan should be cautious.
    Can you please explain to me how Iran will end up in Israel and Indian hands please?

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    Can you please explain to me how Iran will end up in Israel and Indian hands please?
    They have been destabilizing Balochistan for too long as a strategy so that Pakistan does not explore oil and gas over there.It threatens their status of regional oil gas exporters. Also their deal with India over chah bahar port is against Pakistani development of Gwadar.

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    They have been destabilizing Balochistan for too long as a strategy so that Pakistan does not explore oil and gas over there.It threatens their status of regional oil gas exporters. Also their deal with India over chah bahar port is against Pakistani development of Gwadar.
    No they have not on the contrary its Arabs who have been funding terrorists as Gwador threatens Dubai's pre-eminence. Chahbahar is no threat if it was then Pak govt would not be cooperating on a rail link from Gwador to Iranian port.

    Not only that but Chinese are investing 42 billion in corridor and they are spending similar in Iran.

    As far as strategic goes people like you can swivel as much as you want China is biggest benefactor of Pakistan and it will temper our foreign policy viz a vie Arabs.

    In any event what people like you refuse to acknowledge is that US wants regional chaudries and India Israel along with saudis are with Americans.

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    No they have not on the contrary its Arabs who have been funding terrorists as Gwador threatens Dubai's pre-eminence. Chahbahar is no threat if it was then Pak govt would not be cooperating on a rail link from Gwador to Iranian port.

    Not only that but Chinese are investing 42 billion in corridor and they are spending similar in Iran.

    As far as strategic goes people like you can swivel as much as you want China is biggest benefactor of Pakistan and it will temper our foreign policy viz a vie Arabs.

    In any event what people like you refuse to acknowledge is that US wants regional chaudries and India Israel along with saudis are with Americans.
    what sort of proof you have about arabs funding any terrorism in Pakistan apart from them funding madressahs which is a charity work.

    A destabilized Pakistan does not benefit arabs i guess.

    About regional chaudries, that still does not justify Iranian behavior with Pakistan.
    Arabs had the courtesy to send Envoys on every level to Pakistan,what did Iranians send apart from threats?

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    Re: Obama detailed statement about Iran.

    All happy about deal except Israel, US hardliners: Rouhani

    TEHRAN: Iran's President Hassan Rouhani said Sunday that the official implementation of the landmark deal reached between Tehran and six world powers has satisfied all parties except radical extremists.

    Read: Nuclear sanctions lifted as Iran and US agree on dramatic prisoner swap

    Speaking before the parliament in comments broadcast live on state television, Rouhani said, "In (implementing) the deal, all are happy except Zionists, warmongers, sowers of discord among Islamic nations and extremists in the US, The rest are happy."

    Rouhani said the deal has "opened new windows for engagement with the world."

    Related: Iran nuclear deal win may be short-lived for Rouhani

    A strong supporter of the agreement, Rouhani sent out a celebratory tweet calling it a "glorious victory" late Saturday night while the speeches in Vienna were still taking place.

    Rouhani also said the deal was a win for all negotiating parties and all factions inside Iran. "Nobody has been defeated in the deal neither inside the country nor the countries that were negotiating with us," he said, referring to the United States, Britain, France, Russia, China and Germany.

    Rouhani said Iran should use the expected influx of money and investments to spark the "economic mutation" of the country, creating jobs and enhancing quality-of-life for Iranian citizens. Iran has been suffering double-digit inflation and unemployment rates for years.

    Obama claims credit for 'smart' diplomacy
    US President Barack Obama heralded the release of Americans held prisoner in Iran and the full implementation of a historic nuclear accord with the Islamic Republic, holding both up as victories for “smart” diplomacy and his pledge to deal directly with enemies of the United States.

    “This is a good day,” Obama said in a statement from the White House. “When Americans are freed and returned to their families, that's something we can all celebrate.”

    The Obama administration also announced new penalties Sunday on 11 individuals and entities involved in Tehran's ballistic missile program.

    “We will continue to enforce these sanctions vigorously,” Obama said. “We are going to remain vigilant about it.”

    UN's Ban commends US-Iran prisoner swap, lifting of sanctions
    United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon also hailed the exchange of prisoners by the United States and Iran and the lifting of sanctions against Tehran, saying the two countries should now cooperate on additional challenges to find “a safer future”.

    “I commend the moves by the governments of both countries to improve ties. I am also heartened by the lifting of sanctions against Iran,” he said on a visit to Dubai, adding he hoped the parties honoured a nuclear deal that made possible the lifting of curbs.

    “Now is the moment to push for cooperation on other pressing challenges through dialogue which should continue to find a way for a safer future,” he said.

    For Iran, long out in the economic cold over its contested atomic program, implementing the nuclear deal will be a welcome thaw.

    More than $30 billion in assets overseas will become immediately available to the Islamic Republic. Official Iranian reports have set the total amount of frozen Iranian assets overseas at $100 billion

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