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    US regularly violateds Indian EEZ

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/49467749.cms
    WASHINGTON: The US does not recognise India's territorial claims with regard to territorial waters and exclusive economic zone and has been conducting operational challenges to such claims on a regular interval, US Defence Department officials said.

    "India maintains an excessive maritime claim requiring prior consent for military exercises or manoeuvres in its Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ)," a senior Defence Department official told PTI when asked about a recent White House statement that US has challenged India's territorial claims in EEZs.

    "The US diplomatically protested the claim in 2007 and conducted operational challenges in 1999, 2001, and 2008 through 2014," said the official, who requested anonymity.

    While it is not known what was India's response in these operational challenges by the US naval forces, publicly available information says the United States does not recognise this India's territorial claims since 1976 with regard to territorial waters, continental shelf, exclusive economic zone and other maritime zones.

    The US first protested way back in 1976, and then in 1983 and 1997.

    And as such the Pentagon has been regularly conducting operational assertions since 1985.

    India requires foreign warships to provide notice before entering its territorial water as defined and identified by it.

    The Pentagon said it has been carrying out operational challenges in territorial sea, which India says is its own and as such foreign warships need to seek permission from it and notify it, since 1985.

    Its warships entered India's EEZ without notifying India multiple times between 1985 through 1989.

    After a gap of two years, US warships is believed to have entered Indian EEZs without notifying India or seeking permission from it in 1991, through 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2001, 2007 and 2011.

    US warships did the same multiple times in 2014.

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    Re: US regularly violateds Indian EEZ

    Maybe things will change as India becomes more pliant to American interests and moves completely and openly to a position as an American vassal and or proxy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hariz View Post
    Maybe things will change as India becomes more pliant to American interests and moves completely and openly to a position as an American vassal and or proxy
    India was never a vassal state. It will always have equal relationship with all big powers on parity basis.
    I don't see Indian receiving american aid & act as proxy state for American state

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohan Tiwari View Post
    India was never a vassal state. It will always have equal relationship with all big powers on parity basis.
    I don't see Indian receiving american aid & act as proxy state for American state
    My dear Mohan India has received aid from the US and there is no doubt about that.

    My use of the word proxy or vassal was me trying to be polite let me show you the type of headlines we are seeing in recent years:

    This is how a former Indian diplomat headed an article he wrote:

    US unleashes the Indian poodle

    http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakuma...indian-poodle/

    India: the US doormat into Asia?


    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/NF19Df01.html

    Both of these articles have been written by Indians. Why when Indians can refer to India as America's poodle or India is the US doormat would you get offended if I was to say proxy or vassal.[/QUOTE]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hariz View Post
    My dear Mohan India has received aid from the US and there is no doubt about that.

    My use of the word proxy or vassal was me trying to be polite let me show you the type of headlines we are seeing in recent years:

    This is how a former Indian diplomat headed an article he wrote:

    US unleashes the Indian poodle

    http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakuma...indian-poodle/

    India: the US doormat into Asia?


    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/NF19Df01.html

    Both of these articles have been written by Indians. Why when Indians can refer to India as America's poodle or India is the US doormat would you get offended if I was to say proxy or vassal.


    In last 15 yrs, American aid to India is minuscule, compared to Pak which funded 15% of it's total budget from American aid since 2002.

    Bhadrakumar is commy rat. Why are you tagging his biased piece?

    1. Americans aircraft cant enter Indian space
    2. Indians dont share any naval base with US
    3. India arrests crew of U.S. ship carrying weapons
    http://archive.navytimes.com/article...rrying-weapons

    4. An India-US Tussle Over Technology Transfer
    http://thediplomat.com/2015/06/an-in...logy-transfer/
    Also at issue is India’s refusal thus far to sign what the U.S. calls three “foundational agreements” which allow sharing of classified information, logistics and geo-spatial cooperation. While Washington says they are routine and have been signed by all of its partners, New Delhi is uncomfortable.

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    Re: US regularly violateds Indian EEZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Mohan Tiwari View Post
    In last 15 yrs, American aid to India is minuscule, compared to Pak which funded 15% of it's total budget from American aid since 2002.
    India biggest recipient of US economic assistance over 66-year period: USAID

    http://www.dawn.com/news/1194228

    Quote Originally Posted by Mohan Tiwari View Post
    Bhadrakumar is commy rat. Why are you tagging his biased piece?
    You think by making personal insults of a distinguished Indian diplomat it makes you right?

    When you have served Indian corner in real life as he has then make comment

    The rest is Indian topi drama

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    Re: US regularly violateds Indian EEZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Hariz View Post
    India biggest recipient of US economic assistance over 66-year period: USAID

    http://www.dawn.com/news/1194228



    You think by making personal insults of a distinguished Indian diplomat it makes you right?

    When you have served Indian corner in real life as he has then make comment

    The rest is Indian topi drama

    Add civilian and military aid which will put Pak ahead / par with India.

    Compare the population of two countries, their budget and GDP. Few billion $ of Aid to Pak is significant with respect to budget size

    Bhadrakumar is outlier bcoz he is disconnected & imagines his own stories. Read his last 5 editorials and you will begin to believe Pakistan as some kind of supppaawaa while he relegates India to some kind of puppet state of US!

    In real terms, Pak holds little value for west & America, the day they vacate afghanistan--

    American investment in Pak is miniscule while India is biggest FDI recipient(ahead of China) in last 9 months

    American Tower Corp. said it has agreed to buy a 51% stake in Indian cell tower owner Viom Networks Ltd. for 76 billion rupees ($1.2 billion) in a move to capitalize on booming smartphone usage.
    By Dow Jones Business News, October 21, 2015,
    Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/americ...#ixzz3pE4aL8Ou

    i am not saying as If India is too significant to the world but It's a significant regional power
    after Russia,China, UK, France, Germany,Japan, South korea, Brazil,India=Turkey.


    No other country in this world except India; have good relations with
    1. Iran and Saudi Arab
    2. Palestine and Israel
    3. Russia and US
    4. South korea and North korea


    Indian foreign policy is not tied to one state


    US has no access to Indian ports, air base or any other facilities! India is too big to behave like a vassal state.. It's regional power and deals with big powers on equal terms
    Last edited by Mohan Tiwari; 21st October 2015 at 18:53.

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    Re: US regularly violateds Indian EEZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Hariz View Post
    My dear Mohan India has received aid from the US and there is no doubt about that.

    My use of the word proxy or vassal was me trying to be polite let me show you the type of headlines we are seeing in recent years:

    This is how a former Indian diplomat headed an article he wrote:

    US unleashes the Indian poodle

    http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakuma...indian-poodle/

    India: the US doormat into Asia?


    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/NF19Df01.html

    Both of these articles have been written by Indians. Why when Indians can refer to India as America's poodle or India is the US doormat would you get offended if I was to say proxy or vassal.
    [/QUOTE]

    Seems to be very much on the ball there

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