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    That shows how less extremism is among hindus. We, by race, culture and tradition are quite non violent and accommodating.
    Yes, the Hindus (majority of them) have historically been tolerant people.. Even the Indian Muslims had been much more tolerant, compared to the Arab, Turk and Afghan Muslims, Until the rise of Political Islam and the subsequent discovery of huge oil reserves in the Middle East in the last century ... Likewise, Hindutva (or Political Hinduism) is a recent phenomenon that dreams to extend and make dominant the Hindu culture not just over 'India' but 'the whole world' and then the 'entire universe' .... Beware !!
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    .. Beware !!
    Ohh I will now, I never knew we hindus are planning for a world coup. Now I can sense mars mission as a part of universal dominance of hindu .

    Yaha kaam dhande se fursat nahi hai aur baat duniya pe kabza karne ki.

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    Ohh I will now, I never knew we hindus are planning for a world coup. Now I can sense mars mission as a part of universal dominance of hindu .

    Yaha kaam dhande se fursat nahi hai aur baat duniya pe kabza karne ki.

    Well, the father of Hindutva, i.e. Damodar Savarkar (d. 1966) dreams of a Hindutva that extends not just over India but the Universe - with Hindu culture dominating first the world and then the Universe. He wants Hindus to dictate their terms to the whole world ... A day will come when 'mankind' will have to face the force (i.e the force of hindutva):




    (Essentials of Hindutva by V.D. Savarkar)
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    Well, the father of Hindutva, i.e. Damodar Savarkar (d. 1966) dreams of a Hindutva that extends not just over India but the Universe - with Hindu culture dominating first the world and then the Universe. He wants Hindus to dictate their terms to the whole world ... A day will come when 'mankind' will have to face the force (i.e the force of hindutva):


    Who is he? Asked 99.9% hindus.

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    Who is he? Asked 99.9% hindus.

    Wiki:

    Hindutva, or "Hinduness", a term coined by Vinayak Damodar Savarkar in 1923, is the predominant form of Hindu nationalism in India. The Bharatiya Janata Party adopted it as its official ideology in 1989. It is championed by the Hindu nationalist volunteer organisation Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) and its affiliate organisations, notably the Vishva Hindu Parishad, along with the older term Hindu Rashtra (translation: Hindu nation).
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    How is he relevant if no one knows him or even bother to know?

    Are you imposing a no-body on us?

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    How is he relevant if no one knows him or even bother to know?

    Are you imposing a no-body on us?
    Who am I to impose anybody on you ?? ... Indians themselves have chosen him and his ideology (i.e. Hindutva)...
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    Who am I to impose anybody on you ?? ... Indians themselves have chosen him and his ideology (i.e. Hindutva)...
    That's your assumptions.

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    That's your assumptions.
    After Atal, Modi first to salute Savarkar



    Narendra Modi pays tribute to Vinayak Damodar Savarkar on his birth anniversary in Parliament


    New Delhi, May 28: Narendra Modi today followed in the footsteps of Atal Bihari Vajpayee, becoming the first Prime Minister since the ailing BJP patriarch to pay homage to the portrait of Vinayak Damodar Savarkar in Parliament’s Central Hall on the Hindutva icon’s birth anniversary.

    The event has ritualistically raised the hackles of the non-BJP Opposition, especially the Congress.

    Savarkar, the earliest known proponent of Hindutva, had been implicated in the assassination of Mohandas Gandhi but was acquitted for want of evidence.

    Earlier, in 1910, he was arrested in London on charges of sedition for writing a book called The First War of Independence, 1857, shipped to India, sentenced to life imprisonment and transported to the Cellular Jail in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands where he spent 11 years in solitary confinement.

    In 1937, he was elected president of the Hindu Mahasabha and remained so till his death in 1966. Although not a member of the RSS, the Sangh and later the BJP adopted Savarkar as an ideological icon and always defended his alleged complicity in Gandhi’s assassination.

    Modi, who offered flowers to the portrait, later tweeted: “We remember and salute his tireless efforts towards the regeneration of our motherland.”

    Most BJP MPs followed suit and paid tributes to Savarkar on his 131st birth anniversary.

    It was in 2003 that the then NDA government had taken the first step towards installing Savarkar’s portrait in the Central Hall that displays gilt-edged portraits of every eminent leader associated with the Independence struggle.

    The hall also has portraits of Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi. But the portraits of Prime Ministers who died after the Gandhis — V.P. Singh, Chandra Shekhar and I.K. Gujral — have not yet found a place in the august hall.
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    From one murderer to another - the cause is great, the sacrifice necessary

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    Pakistanis look in the mirror firts.

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    From one murderer to another - the cause is great, the sacrifice necessary
    Veer savarkar was one of the most honored freedom fighter, scholar. He published Indian the indian war of independence in 1910.
    What was the single contribution of the opportunist muslim league in independence movement of India???


    1000 of congress and patriotic RSS activist such as Veer savarkar sacrificed their life for freedom!


    Savarkar spent 10 yrs in Andamann jail which was named as kala paani.

    Without rightwing ideology, we would have broken into 100 states. Savarkar is the true ideologue of modern bharat.

    He believes in culture of swadesi/self reliance.

    1. Modi is a nationalist.
    2. He doesnt own billions of property in India and abroad.
    3. He is dedicated leader who works for national interests.
    4. He talks sense. He understands policy. He works like CEO..Progress report.. Feed back.Appraisal.

    Language of communication is not important

    Compare him with sharif who looks, sounds confused.. Mr sharif was asking Bill gates to set up laptop manufacturing plant in Pakistan--Some Western reporters inquired about his degree!

    Modi asked India-- elect me 2 times for 10 yrs and I will then retire from all kinds of politics--
    He is not a power hungry politician---
    He was a novice 2 month elected CM once the gujarat riots broke out.

    IF muslims Kill 100 Catholic members in US--Retaliation will be same as what happened in gujarat...

    Why do you see Modi supporting Indigenous R&D, Ingeniously manufacturing of Tejas while scamgress/congress were happy importing costly western defence equipments. Congress epitomized inefficency, corruption & incapacity;;


    Modi values talent. believes in his people & institutions
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    My award had nothing to do with it.
    And the award has something to do with the present scenario??!! The lady needs to pick one stand and stick to it instead of hopping on various ones...
    By the way, the article fails to mention that she is the niece of Jawaharlal Nehru.
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    ..... Savarkar is the true ideologue of modern bharat.

    Indeed he is.


    Notes on the vicious anti-Muslim bigot and likely abettor of Gandhi’s murder: Vinayak Damodar Savarkar

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    Savarkar, Modi’s mentor: The man who thought Gandhi a sissy
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    ‘Banning Cow Slaughter Has Become More Important Than Banning Man Slaughter’

    There is an autumn chill in the air here in Dehradun but it is still too hot to sit out in the sun in the mornings. The Mussoorie hills, rising almost above her drawing room, are covered in haze and the beautiful pink camellia in Nayantara Sahgal’s garden is not yet in bloom. So we sit inside her gracious house, full of national history and personal memories, to discuss her recent decision, like other writers in India, to give up her Sahitya Akademi Award.

    Since Sahgal, 88, returned the award she received in 1986 for her remarkably insightful novel Rich Like Us, she has been congratulated by many and slammed by others. For many, she is just the niece of India’s first prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru, but she is also the daughter of Vijayalakshmi Pandit, an integral part of the freedom struggle and the Indian political scenario thereafter.

    As Sahgal herself wrote about the Emergency for The New Republic in 1976, “Censorship has been the most highly effective instrument of India’s dictatorship, keeping people ignorant about an event in another town or even half a mile away in their own town. The enormity of censorship, as we now know, can never be understood by people in countries where information is freely available…”

    In 2015, Sahgal felt compelled, to return an award she received as a writer, in protest against another form of censorship, more insidious and in some ways, more dangerous. Many more writers have now done the same. Here she answers questions about her decision to return her award and the criticism she has faced:

    Since you returned your Sahitya Akademi Award four days ago, you have been congratulated but also quite viciously attacked and accused of hypocrisy and tokenism. Is it that some people have not understood your reasons?

    Let me say that apart from the reasons I have mentioned in my open letter (The Unmaking of India, October 6, 2015), I am giving up my award because of my concern over the Sahitya Akademi’s silence over the recent attacks on writers.

    In 1976 I was on the Sahitya Akademi’s advisory board for English. At that time I had requested the Akademi to condemn censorship. I wrote to the then secretary, that “It (the academy) seems willing to be a servile body, an obedient servant of dictatorship”. A literary academy, (set up by Jawaharlal Nehru as were all the cultural Akademis), is concerned with freedom of speech. Writers need space to write without censorship. The Sahitya Akademi did not raise its voice then. I requested them to. They refused, so I resigned.

    I could not stomach a situation where an organisation like the Sahitya Akademi did not raise its voice against censorship which is the death of writing. The Sahitya Akademi did not raise its voice either when Perumal Murugan was persecuted. He has now given up writing and lives in fear for his life. The Akademi did not take a stand.

    My giving up the award does not have to do with riots, whether the horrific events of 1984 or 1992-93 or 2002. I can and have spoken specifically on those. This is about writers and no one can speak for us when we are endangered. On television, Uday Prakash said he was thinking of leaving the country. That is the extent of despair which writers feel today, after the deaths of MM Kalburgi and the lack of action in the investigations into the deaths of Narendra Dabholkar and Govind Pansare. Look at the way UR Ananthamurthy’s death was celebrated by the same organisations which threatened and killed Kalburgi, all because he objected to Narendra Modi.

    We have to safeguard freedom of speech and freedom of thought. We have to safeguard the secular culture we gave ourselves. We elected not to be a Hindu Pakistan. We elected to be a secular state.

    How is this BJP-led government different from the last NDA government under Atal Bihari Vajpayee?

    As a democracy, we expect governments to change. It would be a very unusual situation if governments did not change! The BJP governments of the past, especially under Atal Bihari Vajpayee were quite different. Vajpayee was a civilised man with an open mind and very sensitive to the diversity of India. He reprimanded Modi on the way he handled the Gujarat riots. The BJP governments in the past observed the rules of governance whether in government or as the opposition.

    In 1978, Vajpayee had sent me as part of a delegation to the United Nations. He was a friend of mine and also became a good friend of my mother, Vijayalakshmi Pandit. And it was he who appointed me as ambassador to Italy though it did not materialise.

    Vajpayee once told me that throughout his parliamentary career he had argued with Nehru, opposed him and his ideals. It was only when he sat in Nehru’s chair, he said, that he understood why Nehru did what he did. Nehru, for instance, welcomed opposition, he nurtured it in Parliament. He listened very carefully to what the opposition said about him. Things have changed. The BJP may have Hindutva in its beginnings but I do not think the Jan Sangh was militant in its Hindutva origins. Shyama Prasad Mookerjee was entitled to leave Nehru’s Cabinet when he did, over the issue of refugees. Hindutva was responsible for the murder of Mahatma Gandhi but it had to lie low. Today’s situation is very different.

    Have you been following reactions to your stand on social media?

    I am not very familiar with technology but I have been hearing about some of the abuse and some of my friends have refuted some very crude charges. However, while people can go on an attacking spree on social media that does not mean it reflects the prevailing view.

    In fact I have to say that I am overwhelmed by the support I have received not just from friends, but also from strangers. The support is not just for me but also for what I’m standing for, where all Indians have the right to choose their own ideology, religion and so on.

    Most Hindus, in fact, reject Hindutva. I am a Hindu. I’m a believer. I’m not an atheist. I know there are millions who think like me. But I fear that for many of today’s young people, their education has been neglected in the fields of humanities and literature. They are not perhaps familiar with our modern history or recent literature.

    Did you read journalist Rajdeep Sardesai’s column accusing you of hypocrisy and tokenism?

    I am disappointed that a man like Rajdeep said what he did. He could have checked the facts with me on my stand on the Emergency and riots. Too many people in the media are not willing to speak out in the current climate.

    I have been very open in my opinion with everything horrible that has happened. I have never been silent. My upbringing has taught me to speak up. Was it not John Donne who said, ask not for whom the bell tolls?

    Let me remind Rajdeep and others of that.

    Where are we going now as a society, as a nation?

    It is a moment of transition. We can choose to strengthen our institutions of democracy and culture or we can move towards a Hindu nation. It’s a choice that India has to make, because of the alarming decisions and policies and statements of this current government. That is why so many of us have given up our awards. It is not a token gesture.

    As for Narendra Modi, I would have been overjoyed if a humble chaiwallah had indeed risen to become Prime Minister. But it was the powerful chief minister of Gujarat who presided over a massacre who became Prime Minister.

    We are also seeing now a systematic destruction of Nehru’s heritage.

    I have said before that this government has a psychopathic fear of Nehru. But this term “Nehruvian” is a misnomer. The ideas began under Mahatma Gandhi and the freedom movement. Of secularism, of inclusion, of democracy, of bringing India together cutting across caste, class, religion and gender.

    We rejected the idea of a religious republic, in spite of being a Hindu country, a religious country and agreed to an atheist prime minister. It’s remarkable. The current government’s mantra of development began with Nehru. Now we live in times when fantasy and myth are replacing history and science. We are living in a fantasy where banning cow slaughter is more important than banning man slaughter.


    http://thewire.in/2015/10/11/banning...aughter-12890/

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    There is an autumn chill in the air here in Dehradun but it is still too hot to sit out in the sun in the mornings. The Mussoorie hills, rising almost above her drawing room, are covered in haze and the beautiful pink camellia in Nayantara Sahgal’s garden is not yet in bloom. So we sit inside her gracious house, full of national history and personal memories, to discuss her recent decision, like other writers in India, to give up her Sahitya Akademi Award.

    Since Sahgal, 88, returned the award she received in 1986 for her remarkably insightful novel Rich Like Us, she has been congratulated by many and slammed by others. For many, she is just the niece of India’s first prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru, but she is also the daughter of Vijayalakshmi Pandit, an integral part of the freedom struggle and the Indian political scenario thereafter.

    As Sahgal herself wrote about the Emergency for The New Republic in 1976, “Censorship has been the most highly effective instrument of India’s dictatorship, keeping people ignorant about an event in another town or even half a mile away in their own town. The enormity of censorship, as we now know, can never be understood by people in countries where information is freely available…”

    In 2015, Sahgal felt compelled, to return an award she received as a writer, in protest against another form of censorship, more insidious and in some ways, more dangerous. Many more writers have now done the same. Here she answers questions about her decision to return her award and the criticism she has faced:

    Since you returned your Sahitya Akademi Award four days ago, you have been congratulated but also quite viciously attacked and accused of hypocrisy and tokenism. Is it that some people have not understood your reasons?

    Let me say that apart from the reasons I have mentioned in my open letter (The Unmaking of India, October 6, 2015), I am giving up my award because of my concern over the Sahitya Akademi’s silence over the recent attacks on writers.

    In 1976 I was on the Sahitya Akademi’s advisory board for English. At that time I had requested the Akademi to condemn censorship. I wrote to the then secretary, that “It (the academy) seems willing to be a servile body, an obedient servant of dictatorship”. A literary academy, (set up by Jawaharlal Nehru as were all the cultural Akademis), is concerned with freedom of speech. Writers need space to write without censorship. The Sahitya Akademi did not raise its voice then. I requested them to. They refused, so I resigned.

    I could not stomach a situation where an organisation like the Sahitya Akademi did not raise its voice against censorship which is the death of writing. The Sahitya Akademi did not raise its voice either when Perumal Murugan was persecuted. He has now given up writing and lives in fear for his life. The Akademi did not take a stand.

    My giving up the award does not have to do with riots, whether the horrific events of 1984 or 1992-93 or 2002. I can and have spoken specifically on those. This is about writers and no one can speak for us when we are endangered. On television, Uday Prakash said he was thinking of leaving the country. That is the extent of despair which writers feel today, after the deaths of MM Kalburgi and the lack of action in the investigations into the deaths of Narendra Dabholkar and Govind Pansare. Look at the way UR Ananthamurthy’s death was celebrated by the same organisations which threatened and killed Kalburgi, all because he objected to Narendra Modi.

    We have to safeguard freedom of speech and freedom of thought. We have to safeguard the secular culture we gave ourselves. We elected not to be a Hindu Pakistan. We elected to be a secular state.

    How is this BJP-led government different from the last NDA government under Atal Bihari Vajpayee?

    As a democracy, we expect governments to change. It would be a very unusual situation if governments did not change! The BJP governments of the past, especially under Atal Bihari Vajpayee were quite different. Vajpayee was a civilised man with an open mind and very sensitive to the diversity of India. He reprimanded Modi on the way he handled the Gujarat riots. The BJP governments in the past observed the rules of governance whether in government or as the opposition.

    In 1978, Vajpayee had sent me as part of a delegation to the United Nations. He was a friend of mine and also became a good friend of my mother, Vijayalakshmi Pandit. And it was he who appointed me as ambassador to Italy though it did not materialise.

    Vajpayee once told me that throughout his parliamentary career he had argued with Nehru, opposed him and his ideals. It was only when he sat in Nehru’s chair, he said, that he understood why Nehru did what he did. Nehru, for instance, welcomed opposition, he nurtured it in Parliament. He listened very carefully to what the opposition said about him. Things have changed. The BJP may have Hindutva in its beginnings but I do not think the Jan Sangh was militant in its Hindutva origins. Shyama Prasad Mookerjee was entitled to leave Nehru’s Cabinet when he did, over the issue of refugees. Hindutva was responsible for the murder of Mahatma Gandhi but it had to lie low. Today’s situation is very different.

    Have you been following reactions to your stand on social media?

    I am not very familiar with technology but I have been hearing about some of the abuse and some of my friends have refuted some very crude charges. However, while people can go on an attacking spree on social media that does not mean it reflects the prevailing view.

    In fact I have to say that I am overwhelmed by the support I have received not just from friends, but also from strangers. The support is not just for me but also for what I’m standing for, where all Indians have the right to choose their own ideology, religion and so on.

    Most Hindus, in fact, reject Hindutva. I am a Hindu. I’m a believer. I’m not an atheist. I know there are millions who think like me. But I fear that for many of today’s young people, their education has been neglected in the fields of humanities and literature. They are not perhaps familiar with our modern history or recent literature.

    Did you read journalist Rajdeep Sardesai’s column accusing you of hypocrisy and tokenism?

    I am disappointed that a man like Rajdeep said what he did. He could have checked the facts with me on my stand on the Emergency and riots. Too many people in the media are not willing to speak out in the current climate.

    I have been very open in my opinion with everything horrible that has happened. I have never been silent. My upbringing has taught me to speak up. Was it not John Donne who said, ask not for whom the bell tolls?

    Let me remind Rajdeep and others of that.

    Where are we going now as a society, as a nation?

    It is a moment of transition. We can choose to strengthen our institutions of democracy and culture or we can move towards a Hindu nation. It’s a choice that India has to make, because of the alarming decisions and policies and statements of this current government. That is why so many of us have given up our awards. It is not a token gesture.

    As for Narendra Modi, I would have been overjoyed if a humble chaiwallah had indeed risen to become Prime Minister. But it was the powerful chief minister of Gujarat who presided over a massacre who became Prime Minister.

    We are also seeing now a systematic destruction of Nehru’s heritage.

    I have said before that this government has a psychopathic fear of Nehru. But this term “Nehruvian” is a misnomer. The ideas began under Mahatma Gandhi and the freedom movement. Of secularism, of inclusion, of democracy, of bringing India together cutting across caste, class, religion and gender.

    We rejected the idea of a religious republic, in spite of being a Hindu country, a religious country and agreed to an atheist prime minister. It’s remarkable. The current government’s mantra of development began with Nehru. Now we live in times when fantasy and myth are replacing history and science. We are living in a fantasy where banning cow slaughter is more important than banning man slaughter.


    http://thewire.in/2015/10/11/banning...aughter-12890/
    The fact that she took the award in 1986, hardly 2 years after 1984 anti sikh riots, tells about her credentials very much.
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    Re: ‘Banning Cow Slaughter Has Become More Important Than Banning Man Slaughter’

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    The fact that she took the award in 1986, hardly 2 years after 1984 anti sikh riots, tells about her credentials very much.

    What you mean whats the relevance there

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    threads merged come on [MENTION=174]Wattan[/MENTION] you should know better dont spam forum keep similar material on same thread please
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    Re: ‘I, As A Hindu, As A Believer, Am Horrified By This Ideology’

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    threads merged come on [MENTION=174]Wattan[/MENTION] you should know better dont spam forum keep similar material on same thread please
    Sorry for my bad Sir

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