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    Progress on NAP found far from satisfactory



    ISLAMABAD: The government reluctantly conceded on Wednesday that the implementation of the National Action Plan (NAP) was faltering.

    Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif presided over a meeting held to look into issues relating to implementation of NAP — the 21-point counter-terrorism strategy, that was put in place through a strong political consensus after the Dec 16 Peshawar school tragedy.

    A statement on the meeting attended by key government ministers and Army Chief Gen Raheel Sharif and ISI Director General Lt Gen Rizwan Akhtar said “measures for more effective implementation” of NAP were discussed.

    The meeting took place days after the army chief in a meeting with the prime minister flagged the problems in NAP implementation.

    While there had been widespread public dissatisfaction with ineffective implementation of NAP, the military top brass had at the corps commanders’ conference held in April publicly expressed concerns about its lacklustre implementation with the army chief then calling for “re-energising the National Action Plan in true letter and spirit and achieving discernible results”.

    Gen Raheel Sharif shared the army’s institutional view with the prime minister at the meeting and called for immediate steps to redress the situation.

    A minister, while sharing the sense of the meeting, said “several weak areas were identified”.

    The areas found to be requiring greater attention were foreign funding of seminaries and terrorist groups; proscribed organisations and sectarian groups; hate speech; and madressah reforms.

    The working of apex committees which were formed for civil-military coordination at the provincial level for implementation of NAP was also evaluated. The Sindh government came under severe criticism for not fully cooperating.

    “Sindh apex committee was found to be one of the worst performers,” a source said, adding that the prime minister agreed to take up the matter with the provincial government and the PPP leadership.

    The meeting deliberated on the legal challenge to military courts. The establishment of the courts headed by military officers for two years for trying hardcore terrorists was one of the most important elements of NAP. The military courts that started functioning in February have so far sentenced six Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan militants. The Supreme Court is currently hearing a petition challenging the setting up of the military courts and has restrained the execution of convicts.

    The meeting also discussed next steps in Zarb-i-Azb Operation, the source said, but refused to divulge the steps.

    The army chief, while speaking at the Command and Staff College, Quetta, on last Thursday, had hinted at impending ‘decisive action’ against militants in urban areas.

    “Noteworthy achievements in the operation have created a space for a decisive surge against terrorists in urban areas and environment is getting ripe for political optimisation towards a meaningful and sustainable closure,” Gen Sharif had said.

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    I didn't start a fan of Gen. Raheel - but I am one, he's a straight talking, action man. I would invite forum members to review the composition of the photo above, instead of a team, it's more like meeting between adversaries, which suits Mr. Nawaz Sharif just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muse View Post
    I didn't start a fan of Gen. Raheel - but I am one, he's a straight talking, action man. I would invite forum members to review the composition of the photo above, instead of a team, it's more like meeting between adversaries, which suits Mr. Nawaz Sharif just fine.
    I would rather it was the general revealing the plan than Nisar

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    Quote Originally Posted by greencold View Post
    I would rather it was the general revealing the plan than Nisar
    It's a POLITICAL problem - not just the relationship between NS and Nisar but also the strong opposition of the PPP and the religious parties - Nisar is especially close to religious parties



    Inaction plan
    Tariq Khosa —
    Published May 28, 2015
    The writer is a retired police officer.

    TERRORISTS cannot demoralise the nation. The war will continue till the elimination of the last terrorist. Thus spoke the interior minister recently — after some weeks in hibernation. Reassuring? Or are words all he has?

    He was declared the counterterrorism czar in January this year by the prime minister in a meeting to discuss the implementation of the National Action Plan (NAP) when it was decided that the interior minister would lead the effort to implement the 20-point counterterrorism (CT) strategy and ensure proper coordination with all stakeholders.

    It is now time to point out the inadequacies of certain aspects of the CT policy being pursued and also highlight the lack of progress in implementing NAP in its true spirit.

    Firstly, over 100 convicts have been hanged in five months since the Dec 16 carnage at the Army Public School, Peshawar. Has capital punishment deterred diehard terrorists? All I can say with my experience of more than 40 years in law enforcement is that it is the certainty and not the severity of punishment that deters criminals or reduces criminality. As long as loopholes exist in our justice system, death by hanging will not work.

    Second, NAP emphasised that no armed militias would be allowed to function in the country. While the interior ministry has banned issuance of arms licences, some provinces are generously distributing licences of even prohibited-bore weapons. There is no policy of firm gun control in any province. No wonder violence cannot be stopped by a state machinery unwilling or incapable of enforcing its writ through effective deweaponisation.

    Third, the National Counter-Terrorism Authority was to be strengthened and activated. However, Nacta has not been placed under the prime minister as per the law. The interior minister continues to keep Nacta under his wing, without giving it the necessary professional staff and resources. No wonder the vacuum is being filled by the military establishment.

    Fourth, effective measures were required to counter hate speech. Some progress in this regard has been achieved by the Punjab and KP governments. However, the extremist mindset has permeated society and a wholesome strategy is missing.

    Fifth, choking terror financing has not met with any significant success. A task force under the finance minister held a few meetings but has failed so far to come up with an institutional mechanism to regulate or block financing for terrorists.

    Sixth, NAP required ensuring that proscribed organisations do not re-emerge. The working group had suggested banning the office-bearers and leaders of militant organisations. However, proscribed groups re-emerge with new names; some pose as charitable entities, others simply flout the ban. Therefore, those responsible for creating these monsters need to show resolve to clear the snake-pit of militancy.

    Seventh, the plan required “taking effective steps against religious persecution”. This is an area where a long-term strategy is required. What should be the role of religion in matters of statecraft? How should we safeguard the fundamental rights of the minorities? This is a larger debate that this nation cannot afford to ignore.

    Eighth, the crucial plan to register and regulate madressahs has stalled. This is where the government has buckled under the pressure of religious parties. It was decided that all madressahs would be registered; foreign students expelled, scores of identified seminaries promoting violence closed down, independent audit of all their funding carried out and all foreign funding routed through government institutions. Eventually, all madressahs were to be brought under the provincial education departments.

    Ninth, zero tolerance for militancy in Punjab was to be shown. This is the real battle zone where nurseries of religious extremism, sectarianism and militancy have thrived for far too long. While assuring that all non-state actors would be tackled eventually, the army chief will be tested hard on his commitment.

    Tenth, NAP stressed on empowering the Balochistan government for political reconciliation with dissidents through complete ownership by all stakeholders. The political government has not been given a free hand to resolve the issue of missing persons. The kill-and-dump strategy has not been abandoned completely. Security forces are combating the Baloch insurgency through strong-arm tactics. No one is prepared to give peace a chance, at least for now.

    Eleventh, an important NAP point dealt with revamping and reforming the criminal justice system, including strengthening CT departments. This is unfortunately not a priority of the state. The government is not willing to depoliticise the police or give them sufficient autonomy and resources. In the absence of all this, the military will keep calling the shots in internal security matters.

    This, in a nutshell, is the national inaction plan against the terrorists who want to dismantle our state. Will the CT czar lead the battle against the militants in real earnest?


    The writer is a retired police officer.

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    Astrong signal coming through. Lets hope action is taken after these words

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    Every gardener knows that you can not just get rid of weeds by just destroying them above the soil level and to really get rid you need to hit the roots.
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    What Nisar in my opinion is struggling within his party with is that PMLN can't afford to lose certain partisan allies in both MQM, PPP and several religious organisations that are issued bans but are still operational and get funded. So one day Chaudhry Nisar says that a lot of madrasaahs happen to function as a breeding ground for indoctrination of religious extremism and the next day he clarifies that he did not intend to accuse all madrasaahs of fuelling extremist ideology. The same thing happened when the raid on 90 took place and Nisar said that no political party including MQM would be given the immunity to form military wings and indulge in sectarian and political targeted assassinations and then afterwards he stated that he wasn't incriminating MQM as a political party but merely a current crop of bad apples. He should give his political posturing a rest and resolve his own issues with the leadership so that he doesn't have to offer clarifications and backtrack after issuing a statement because his party would have to bear severe backlash and a great deal of political pressure which Nawaz Shariff simply can't afford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aamna14 View Post
    What Nisar in my opinion is struggling within his party with is that PMLN can't afford to lose certain partisan allies in both MQM, PPP and several religious organisations that are issued bans but are still operational and get funded. So one day Chaudhry Nisar says that a lot of madrasaahs happen to function as a breeding ground for indoctrination of religious extremism and the next day he clarifies that he did not intend to accuse all madrasaahs of fuelling extremist ideology. The same thing happened when the raid on 90 took place and Nisar said that no political party including MQM would be given the immunity to form military wings and indulge in sectarian and political targeted assassinations and then afterwards he stated that he wasn't incriminating MQM as a political party but merely a current crop of bad apples. He should give his political posturing a rest and resolve his own issues with the leadership so that he doesn't have to offer clarifications and backtrack after issuing a statement because his party would have to bear severe backlash and a great deal of political pressure which Nawaz Shariff simply can't afford.
    Great post and there you got it in a nutshell our politicians simply are pandering to the whims of the extremists and intolerant. We dont have anyone who is sincere and will stick his neck out even IK avoids confronting that what needs to be confronted and for the sake of Pakistan must be confronted
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hariz View Post
    Great post and there you got it in a nutshell our politicians simply are pandering to the whims of the extremists and intolerant. We dont have anyone who is sincere and will stick his neck out even IK avoids confronting that what needs to be confronted and for the sake of Pakistan must be confronted
    If the army doesn't put its foot down --- forget it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hariz View Post
    Great post and there you got it in a nutshell our politicians simply are pandering to the whims of the extremists and intolerant. We dont have anyone who is sincere and will stick his neck out even IK avoids confronting that what needs to be confronted and for the sake of Pakistan must be confronted
    The Zardaris and the Shariffs are merely the saturated evil that rises above the surface it's the failure of the Pakistani people particularly the so called enlightened, literate and politically aware section of the society to address the hypocrisy of their own silence and indifference towards such characters who have been well known to be self seeking crooks but still remain relevant in the political arena entirely thanks to the public. We are raising our children within a culture of servitude and expect that one of them might grow into a phenomenal leader it's just not practical. We are much worse than the tribal people most so called liberals mock at because they don't tolerate oppressors despite being semi or illiterate but we even assist the longevity of their tenure. When doctors, teachers and lawyers are shown on television exchanging blows amongst themselves, burning tyres, causing property damage and acting like sick loonies then the problem lies within us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aamna14 View Post
    The Zardaris and the Shariffs are merely the saturated evil that rises above the surface it's the failure of the Pakistani people particularly the so called enlightened, literate and politically aware section of the society to address the hypocrisy of their own silence and indifference towards such characters who have been well known to be self seeking crooks but still remain relevant in the political arena entirely thanks to the public. We are raising our children within a culture of servitude and expect that one of them might grow into a phenomenal leader it's just not practical. We are much worse than the tribal people most so called liberals mock at because they don't tolerate oppressors despite being semi or illiterate but we even assist the longevity of their tenure. When doctors, teachers and lawyers are shown on television exchanging blows amongst themselves, burning tyres, causing property damage and acting like sick loonies then the problem lies within us.
    What could Nisar today to show intent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hope View Post
    What could Nisar today to show intent?
    Nisar could only utter empty rhetoric and clamp down on those political and religious mafias on whom PMLN does not rely upon for a political alliance now and then. Nawaz Shariff is on record stating that MQM was the party that introduced the culture of political mafias and violence in Karachi yet I am sure the reason why Nisar had to backtrack and soften his statement was because Nawaz Shariff did not want to lose a potential ally he could exploit. It's not so much that Nisar's intent is clouded but I believe even he would be much more well aware than we are of the fact that sane individuals in his party clearly get outnumbered by servile sycophants and they want to take popular decisions because they simply can't think beyond the next elections. The only reason Nawaz Shariff is even seated here is because of the man sitting right next to him so Nisar even if he is well intentioned simply can't hunt down the bigger fish because his party leadership is morally bankrupt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aamna14 View Post
    Nisar could only utter empty rhetoric and clamp down on those political and religious mafias on whom PMLN does not rely upon for a political alliance now and then. Nawaz Shariff is on record stating that MQM was the party that introduced the culture of political mafias and violence in Karachi yet I am sure the reason why Nisar had to backtrack and soften his statement was because Nawaz Shariff did not want to lose a potential ally he could exploit. It's not so much that Nisar's intent is clouded but I believe even he would be much more well aware than we are of the fact that sane individuals in his party clearly get outnumbered by servile sycophants and they want to take popular decisions because they simply can't think beyond the next elections. The only reason Nawaz Shariff is even seated here is because of the man sitting right next to him so Nisar even if he is well intentioned simply can't hunt down the bigger fish because his party leadership is morally bankrupt.
    Surely with the MQM recent activity he cant form allegiance with them and should distant himself from this party? I find Pakistan politics difficult to understand sister
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fassi View Post
    Surely with the MQM recent activity he cant form allegiance with them and should distant himself from this party? I find Pakistan politics difficult to understand sister
    Of course, there won't be an overt allegiance but there is always a covert give and take relationship. Didn't PMLN know before the raid on 90 that a huge chunk of sectarian and political assassinations in Karachi is carried out by MQM? They did. Nawaz Shariff gave that statement long before this incident on 90 took place. When Saulat Mirza repeatedly blamed Altaf and co for exploiting youngsters and turning them into murderers and extortionists then why didn't Nawaz Shariff demand Altaf's extradition? He gives infamous speeches in India against the creation of Pakistan and then recently notoriously scoffed at the Armed forces of Pakistan and the comatose political establishment was paralysed so the ISPR had to condemn it. The reason most political parties support MQM is because they are well aware of the fact that their own political careers are protected if the status quo retains its stronghold in Karachi and because MQM had a strong vote bank and deep infiltration in Karachi which gave them the leverage they need to get away with any and everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aamna14 View Post
    Of course, there won't be an overt allegiance but there is always a covert give and take relationship. Didn't PMLN know before the raid on 90 that a huge chunk of sectarian and political assassinations in Karachi is carried out by MQM? They did. Nawaz Shariff gave that statement long before this incident on 90 took place. When Saulta Mirza repeatedly blamed Altaf and co for exploiting youngsters and turning them into murderers and extortionists then why didn't Nawaz Shariff demand Altaf's extradition? He gives infamous speeches in India against the creation of Pakistan and then recently notoriously scoffed at the Armed forces of Pakistan and the comatose political establishment was paralysed so the ISPR had to condemn it. The reason most political parties support MQM is because they are well aware of the fact that their own political careers are protected if the status quo retains its stronghold in Karachi and because MQM had a strong vote bank and deep infiltration in Karachi which gave them the leverage they need to get away with any and everything.
    I would rather have someone honest and stand up to the infestation of these cockroaches. It detracts people like me coming back to my parents homeland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fassi View Post
    I would rather have someone honest and stand up to the infestation of these cockroaches. It detracts people like me coming back to my parents homeland.
    Then work to change the constitution - get the objectives resolution out of it, get the religious requirements out of it, Westminster on the Indus is a recipe for failure - there are now 4 states where there was one. The constitution did not come from Sinai or a cave in Hira - it's supposed to be a problem solving tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fassi View Post
    Surely with the MQM recent activity he cant form allegiance with them and should distant himself from this party? I find Pakistan politics difficult to understand sister
    You are not alone. We have the same crop of ass holes to select from and then the same outcome. About 68 years of hurt. They say what the public want to here and promise the world. When it comes to delivery, the intent and desire is decimated.
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    Then work to change the constitution - get the objectives resolution out of it, get the religious requirements out of it, Westminster on the Indus is a recipe for failure - there are now 4 states where there was one. The constitution did not come from Sinai or a cave in Hira - it's supposed to be a problem solving tool.
    I am a mere student that has dreams to fulfil. Find that those living in Pakistan don't help themselves. What chance has a mere nobody like me have a chance of moving mountains sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aamna14 View Post
    Of course, there won't be an overt allegiance but there is always a covert give and take relationship. Didn't PMLN know before the raid on 90 that a huge chunk of sectarian and political assassinations in Karachi is carried out by MQM? They did. Nawaz Shariff gave that statement long before this incident on 90 took place. When Saulat Mirza repeatedly blamed Altaf and co for exploiting youngsters and turning them into murderers and extortionists then why didn't Nawaz Shariff demand Altaf's extradition? He gives infamous speeches in India against the creation of Pakistan and then recently notoriously scoffed at the Armed forces of Pakistan and the comatose political establishment was paralysed so the ISPR had to condemn it. The reason most political parties support MQM is because they are well aware of the fact that their own political careers are protected if the status quo retains its stronghold in Karachi and because MQM had a strong vote bank and deep infiltration in Karachi which gave them the leverage they need to get away with any and everything.
    Altaf Hussain has literally got away with murder. Whatever Nisar reveals for the future cant mend what he has done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fassi View Post
    I am a mere student that has dreams to fulfil. Find that those living in Pakistan don't help themselves. What chance has a mere nobody like me have a chance of moving mountains sir?
    You will be surprised, it may seems that you are powerless, but merely being conscious of the problem and discussing it, raises awareness in others. The Pakistan constitution is not all bad, but where it is not a problem solver, it needs revisiting. Sure, granted, politicians are in no hurry to revisit clauses, but allow me to paint a picture of a Pakistan in which more than 50 percent are living in cities, are in desperate of gainful and possibly dignified employment, but lets face it, not all gainful employment is dignified, but it puts food on the table and allows hope to exist, this same PAKISTAN, has the possibility to become a major economic regional hub, this same PAKISTAN cannot survive in the presence of terrorism and the constitution that enables it.

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