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    ISIS now targets Indian Muslims with video subtitled in Hindi, Urdu and Tamil

    Alert out for ‘Indian-born jihadi fighting in Iraq’

    Sources in Indian security agencies said they did not have credible information on the number of Indian jihadis in Iraq and Syria. (Source: AP photo)

    Indian airports and sea ports have been put on alert, should the man attempt to enter India.
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    A “lookout circular” has been issued against a 38-year-old man of Indian origin suspected to be fighting alongside the Sunni militant group, Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) in Iraq.
    Indian airports and sea ports have been put on alert, should the man attempt to enter India. They have been given a description of the Tamil Nadu-born Singapore resident Haji Fakkurudin Usman Ali, who is also suspected to have participated in the civil war in Syria.

    Officials said Usman Ali could be the first concrete example of a man with an India connection suspected to be involved in the ongoing jihadi war against the government in Baghdad. Several Indian agencies have been closely monitoring the developments in Iraq, but sources said they do not have any case against Ali in India, and cannot even issue a red corner notice against him.

    However, following disclosures by Singapore authorities in January this year, the Indian agencies have collected details of Ali’s contacts in India, all of whom have been put under watch.
    According to the dossier provided by Singapore, Ali, who worked as a superstore manager in the city state, took up his religious mission first in 2007, and is said to have made his maiden visit to Syria in 2013. He is believed to have taken Singapore citizenship some years after he moved to that country.
    Ali is believed to have been radicalised by another man from Tamil Nadu called Gul Mohammad Maraikar, who was deported to India recently. Gul Mohammad hails from Cuddalore, and was employed with a well known multinational firm in Singapore before he came under the scanner of intelligence agencies of that country.
    Gul Mohammad is believed to have revealed that he had financed the trip to Syria of one of several radicalised youths from Tamil Nadu. His disclosures were crosschecked, and investigators discovered that Ali, who had been in touch with Gul Mohammad, had left for Syria in January via Turkey to participate in jihad.
    Gul Mohammad was released after Indian authorities failed to press charges against him. He was, however, put under surveillance by local law-enforcement agencies in Tamil Nadu.
    Following the arrest of alleged Indian Mujahideen operative Yasin Bhatkal last August, investigators had found evidence to suggest that two youths from Azamgarh in UP had gone to Afghanistan to join al-Qaeda, and were “fighting in Afghanistan-Pakistan border”.

    Sources in Indian security agencies said they did not have credible information on the number of Indian jihadis in Iraq and Syria, but they suspected that several youths from India had gone to Afghanistan and West Asia to take up the fight.

    “Some of these youths have received military training, while others were inspired by propaganda online,” a top counter terror official said.


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    Re: Alert out for ‘Indian-born jihadi fighting in Iraq’

    This could be dangerous for India if sufficient numbers go into this. They could get training and then propagate these things in India when they come back

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    Re: Alert out for ‘Indian-born jihadi fighting in Iraq’

    Indian Mujahideen is a strong force and its homegrown.
    IB had no clue of Indians fighting in Syria and Iraq.
    This is only the beginning, remember that supressed muslims are best recruits for jihadists and India has too many.
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    Re: Alert out for ‘Indian-born jihadi fighting in Iraq’

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Indian Mujahideen is a strong force and its homegrown.
    IB had no clue of Indians fighting in Syria and Iraq.
    This is only the beginning, remember that supressed muslims are best recruits for jihadists and India has too many.
    We will terminate all those that are terrorists. This muslim decease will be cured now that we have Modi as PM

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    Re: Alert out for ‘Indian-born jihadi fighting in Iraq’

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi01 View Post
    We will terminate all those that are terrorists. This muslim decease will be cured now that we have Modi as PM
    Don't be stupid terrorists have no religion. In any event these are oppressed Indian Muslims. Some states like India have used acts of terrorism to justify state terrorism
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    Re: Alert out for ‘Indian-born jihadi fighting in Iraq’

    There comes the 'Modi factor', hilarious!
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    Re: Alert out for ‘Indian-born jihadi fighting in Iraq’

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi01 View Post
    We will terminate all those that are terrorists. This muslim decease will be cured now that we have Modi as PM
    You talk some crap friend.

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    Pro-ISIS stir a disturbing trend in Valley: Separatists

    SRINAGAR/MUMBAI: The unexpected appearance of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS flags during recent anti-Israel protests in Srinagar has left government authorities, Sunni-Barelvi scholars and even Kashmiri separatists searching for answers.

    Masked Kashmiri youngsters were seen carrying ISIS flags on at least two occasions: first outside the Jamia Masjid on July 11 and then on July 29, the day of Eid. The J&K police have so far been unable to round up the masked men who held up the outfit's flags during the recent protests.

    Separatist leaders, expressing displeasure, said, "We're unable to control the youth who are drifting towards the Deobandi school of thought, which is more or less aligned to the Wahhabis," said a senior separatist leader. "This is a disturbing trend in the Kashmir valley, which is of predominately Barelvi thought. The trend may disturb the social fabric and trigger sectarian clashes in the future."

    The Valley's Shia population, too, expressed unease. "We fear this may put our lives at risk since the ISIS leader is targeting the Shias, besides Islamic shrines and monuments," said Mirza Hussian, a resident of the old city in Srinagar.

    In Mumbai, experts said Barelvi is not a sect. Barelvis are followers of Aala Hazrat Maulana Ahmed Raza Khan (1856-1921), a Sunni scholar from Bareilly in UP who fought against Wahhabism. These scholars like to be called Sunni-Barelvis.

    "We oppose the Israeli attacks on Gaza, but are shocked at the appearance of ISIS flags in Kashmir during the protest on Eid," said Maulana Tauqeer Raza, a leading Sunni-Barelvi scholar and chief of Ittihad-e-Millat Tanzeem. "The ISIS jihadis are terrorists and can't be called Sunnis. They're defaming Islam and acting at the behest of the enemies of Islam. They've demolished shrines of prophets as they're opposed to visiting shrines of Sufis. Some Kashmiri youths might have got influenced by their ideology..."

    Saeed Noorie, secretary of the Mumbai-based Raza Academy, a socio-religious institution established to propagate Barelvi thought, said, "ISIS has nothing to do with Islam. It's ideologically close to Wahhabis and harming the cause of Muslims. They call themselves Sunnis but act against the values taught by Sunni Islam. Its leader Abu Baqar al-Baghdadi is a self-declared caliph. But he's deceiving people and is a fake caliph because he lacks the qualities of a caliph."

    Moin Ashraf Kadri, a Sunni leader, insisted on not being called a Barelvi but just a Sunni. "It's unfortunate and dangerous that some youths displayed ISIS flags in Kashmir," Kadri said. "ISIS is a terrorist group and its actions are anti-Islamic. They're killing innocent people and forcefully converting Christians, which is against the principles of Islam. Islam teaches compassion but ISIS is spreading hatred. They cannot be called Muslims or Sunni Muslims."

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    Re: Pro-ISIS stir a disturbing trend in Valley: Separatists

    What do Pakistanis say about these separatists now? These separatists are real enemies of the nation and their voice must be choked once for all. They are purposefully diffusing this falsified propaganda to infuse that kind of anti-nation sentiment and create problems. ISIS are terrorists is correct but so are the Separatist in Kashmir who are proscribing to them. Without these separatists Kashmir will be most peaceful place accommodating all alike.

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    Re: Pro-ISIS stir a disturbing trend in Valley: Separatists

    Perfect ! If This ISIS stuff continues, the claim that captive kashmir is a "Muslim majority" state, a legacy of partition, would effectively be destroyed - How so? There could be no claim of a "Muslim" opposition - since the struggle would break up into sectarian strife and rob the historic movement of it's very reason for being, it's entire justification - Another win for the great and glorious Pakistan Army and it's islamization.

    The Indian should be promoting this movement and reaction to it, if they mean business.

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    Re: Pro-ISIS stir a disturbing trend in Valley: Separatists

    Quote Originally Posted by Muse View Post
    - Another win for the great and glorious Pakistan Army and it's islamization.

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    I don't see anyone suggesting that PA are supporting ISIS in Kashmir or anywhere

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    Re: Pro-ISIS stir a disturbing trend in Valley: Separatists

    Quote Originally Posted by sparkling View Post
    I don't see anyone suggesting that PA are supporting ISIS in Kashmir or anywhere


    Separatist leaders, expressing displeasure, said, "We're unable to control the youth who are drifting towards the Deobandi school of thought, which is more or less aligned to the Wahhabis," said a senior separatist leader. "This is a disturbing trend in the Kashmir valley, which is of predominately Barelvi thought. The trend may disturb the social fabric and trigger sectarian clashes in the future."

    The Valley's Shia population, too, expressed unease. "We fear this may put our lives at risk since the ISIS leader is targeting the Shias, besides Islamic shrines and monuments," said Mirza Hussian, a resident of the old city in Srinagar.
    Who is the god father of the deobandi/Wahabi ascendancy in Pakistan, if not the Pakistan Army??? You can deny it all you like but ISIS are trained by Pakistani officers

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    Re: Pro-ISIS stir a disturbing trend in Valley: Separatists

    Quote Originally Posted by Muse View Post
    Who is the god father of the deobandi/Wahabi ascendancy in Pakistan, if not the Pakistan Army??? You can deny it all you like but ISIS are trained by Pakistani officers

    I have an open mind please show me some authority or reason
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    Re: Pro-ISIS stir a disturbing trend in Valley: Separatists

    Quote Originally Posted by sparkling View Post
    I have an open mind please show me some authority or reason
    You may have an open mind, but apparently not the time to read articles posted on this very forum about Pakistani officers training ISIS - see article about Saudi ambitions in the sub-continent ----- further, what kind of group is the LeT?? Which army introduced this ideology into what was once a legitimate struggle for freedom??

    I mean as long as you have an open mind, keep it honesty as well.

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    Re: Pro-ISIS stir a disturbing trend in Valley: Separatists

    Quote Originally Posted by Muse View Post
    You may have an open mind, but apparently not the time to read articles posted on this very forum about Pakistani officers training ISIS - see article about Saudi ambitions in the sub-continent ----- further, what kind of group is the LeT?? Which army introduced this ideology into what was once a legitimate struggle for freedom??

    I mean as long as you have an open mind, keep it honesty as well.
    I have seen those articles you mention. But I don't accept sources say..... as evidence. Every nutter who picks up ISIS flag cannot be blamed on PA. If anything there is clear evidence of Saudi indoctrination throughout the world for example those welsh kids in the UK. If you want to cut the root of this tendency get rid of Sauds and their funding of schools around the world not PA

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    Re: Pro-ISIS stir a disturbing trend in Valley: Separatists

    Quote Originally Posted by sparkling View Post
    I have seen those articles you mention. But I don't accept sources say..... as evidence. not PA
    OK - your prerogative

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    Re: Pro-ISIS stir a disturbing trend in Valley: Separatists

    I doubt that its any more in the valley than a few idiots who have been watching tv and seeing isis as a at the moment "trendy" movement that fly that flag. Anyway no attacks or terrorism has been attributed to them only thing is a few banners with isis

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    Re: Pro-ISIS stir a disturbing trend in Valley: Separatists

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    I doubt that its any more in the valley than a few idiots who have been watching tv and seeing isis as a at the moment "trendy" movement that fly that flag. Anyway no attacks or terrorism has been attributed to them only thing is a few banners with isis
    Possibly - but please read this carefully, take your time:

    Separatist leaders, expressing displeasure, said, "We're unable to control the youth who are drifting towards the Deobandi school of thought, which is more or less aligned to the Wahhabis," said a senior separatist leader. "This is a disturbing trend in the Kashmir valley, which is of predominately Barelvi thought. The trend may disturb the social fabric and trigger sectarian clashes in the future."

    The Valley's Shia population, too, expressed unease. "We fear this may put our lives at risk since the ISIS leader is targeting the Shias, besides Islamic shrines and monuments," said Mirza Hussian, a resident of the old city in Srinaga
    Now you may have a point that these are just some idiots -- but if the Indian is smart, and he has been known to be (on occasion), he should be making sure that sectarian sentiments get full expression in captive Kashmir, after all, it's their "democratic right" to express themselves -- and there are plently of Nepali 914 Rifles to handle that expression.

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    Re: Pro-ISIS stir a disturbing trend in Valley: Separatists

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    Possibly - but please read this carefully, take your time:



    Now you may have a point that these are just some idiots -- but if the Indian is smart, and he has been known to be (on occasion), he should be making sure that sectarian sentiments get full expression in captive Kashmir, after all, it's their "democratic right" to express themselves -- and there are plently of Nepali 914 Rifles to handle that expression.
    I think it could be good in that PA would have to come out and refuse to support them just as they have been with TTP

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    ISIS now targets Indian Muslims with video subtitled in Hindi, Urdu and Tamil

    In the past, a number of reports have suggested that Indian men have been recruited by the Islamic State for Iraq and Syria (ISIS) for their operations in Syria and other places in the Middle East. A few weeks back, a propaganda video surfaced on the internet. The video describes the life of a young male, Abu Muslim (whose name means 'may Allah accept him') who was recruited from Canada. The video shows him narrating his experience of how he was a street janitor in Canada and then moved to Syria. He calls on people to help them in anyway possible including engineers and doctors. He glorifies the cause of Jihad and asks people to come along with their families who "will be taken care of. We have wide expanse of territory in Syria."






    The video ends with him being killed in a fight. The video which was made by Al Isabah Media. As scroll.in reported, their page on Facebook has over 2800 likes. The video has been translated into Tamil as well as Urdu in addition to the Hindi subtitles in the videos. ISIS leader Abu Bakar Al Baghdadi's video earlier has also been translated to Hindi and in a message published last month he has also called on Muslims from India to come and fight for the dignity they deserve.



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