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    Survey: Most Israeli Jews would support apartheid regime in Israel
    Survey, conducted by Dialog on the eve of Rosh Hashanah, exposes anti-Arab, ultra-nationalist views espoused by a majority of Israeli Jews.
    By Gideon Levy | Oct.23, 2012 | 2:32 PM | 103

    Most of the Jewish public in Israel supports the establishment of an apartheid regime in Israel if it formally annexes the West Bank.

    A majority also explicitly favors discrimination against the state's Arab citizens, a survey shows.

    The survey, conducted by Dialog on the eve of Rosh Hashanah, exposes anti-Arab, ultra-nationalist views espoused by a majority of Israeli Jews. The survey was commissioned by the New Israel Fund's Yisraela Goldblum Fund and is based on a sample of 503 interviewees.

    The questions were written by a group of academia-based peace and civil rights activists. Dialog is headed by Tel Aviv University Prof. Camil Fuchs.

    The majority of the Jewish public, 59 percent, wants preference for Jews over Arabs in admission to jobs in government ministries. Almost half the Jews, 49 percent, want the state to treat Jewish citizens better than Arab ones; 42 percent don't want to live in the same building with Arabs and 42 percent don't want their children in the same class with Arab children.

    A third of the Jewish public wants a law barring Israeli Arabs from voting for the Knesset and a large majority of 69 percent objects to giving 2.5 million Palestinians the right to vote if Israel annexes the West Bank.

    A sweeping 74 percent majority is in favor of separate roads for Israelis and Palestinians in the West Bank. A quarter - 24 percent - believe separate roads are "a good situation" and 50 percent believe they are "a necessary situation."

    Almost half - 47 percent - want part of Israel's Arab population to be transferred to the Palestinian Authority and 36 percent support transferring some of the Arab towns from Israel to the PA, in exchange for keeping some of the West Bank settlements.

    Although the territories have not been annexed, most of the Jewish public (58 percent ) already believes Israel practices apartheid against Arabs. Only 31 percent think such a system is not in force here. Over a third (38 percent ) of the Jewish public wants Israel to annex the territories with settlements on them, while 48 percent object.

    The survey distinguishes among the various communities in Israeli society - secular, observant, religious, ultra-Orthodox and former Soviet immigrants. The ultra-Orthodox, in contrast to those who described themselves as religious or observant, hold the most extreme positions against the Palestinians. An overwhelming majority (83 percent ) of Haredim are in favor of segregated roads and 71 percent are in favor of transfer.

    The ultra-Orthodox are also the most anti-Arab group - 70 percent of them support legally barring Israeli Arabs from voting, 82 percent support preferential treatment from the state toward Jews, and 95 percent are in favor of discrimination against Arabs in admission to workplaces.

    The group classifying itself as religious is the second most anti-Arab. New immigrants from former Soviet states are closer in their views of the Palestinians to secular Israelis, and are far less radical than the religious and Haredi groups. However, the number of people who answered "don't know" in the "Russian" community was higher than in any other.

    The Russians register the highest rate of satisfaction with life in Israel (77 percent ) and the secular Israelis the lowest - only 63 percent. On average, 69 percent of Israelis are satisfied with life in Israel.

    Secular Israelis appear to be the least racist - 68 percent of them would not mind having Arab neighbors in their apartment building, 73 percent would not mind Arab students in their children's class and 50 percent believe Arabs should not be discriminated against in admission to workplaces.

    The survey indicates that a third to half of Jewish Israelis want to live in a state that practices formal, open discrimination against its Arab citizens. An even larger majority wants to live in an apartheid state if Israel annexes the territories.

    The survey conductors say perhaps the term "apartheid" was not clear enough to some interviewees. However, the interviewees did not object strongly to describing Israel's character as "apartheid" already today, without annexing the territories. Only 31 percent objected to calling Israel an "apartheid state" and said "there's no apartheid at all."

    In contrast, 39 percent believe apartheid is practiced "in a few fields"; 19 percent believe "there's apartheid in many fields" and 11 percent do not know.

    The "Russians," as the survey calls them, display the most objection to classifying their new country as an apartheid state. A third of them - 35 percent - believe Israel practices no apartheid at all, compared to 28 percent of the secular and ultra-Orthodox communities, 27 percent of the religious and 30 percent of the observant Jews who hold that view. Altogether, 58 percent of all the groups believe Israel practices apartheid "in a few fields" or "in many fields," while 11 percent don't know.

    Finally, the interviewees were asked whether "a famous American author [who] is boycotting Israel, claiming it practices apartheid" should be boycotted or invited to Israel. About half (48 percent ) said she should be invited to Israel, 28 percent suggest no response and only 15 percent call to boycott her.

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    how shameful can this group of people get

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    Israel an apartheid state? A majority of Jews say yes

    A majority of Israeli Jews admit they are living in an apartheid state, a recent survey claimed. Many also believed that Palestinians should be denied the right to vote, and suggested that Jewish citizens should be given preferential treatment.

    *Some 500 Jewish adults took part in the survey, answering questions put together by a group of civil rights activists and academics, Haaretz newspaper reported on Tuesday. The survey’s findings revealed that 39 percent of respondents believe there is a ‘slight’ form of apartheid in the country, while 19 percent admit that there is ‘heavy’ apartheid.

    A different question suggested that the number of those in favor of ethnic segregation is higher, with 74 percent of those surveyed in favor of separate roads for Jews and Arabs in the West Bank.

    On the contentious issue of the West Bank, 38 percent of respondents wanted to annex the territories with settlements, and 48 percent opposed that policy. A followup question on voting rights for Palestinians saw 69 percent of respondents in favor of denying 2.5 million of Palestinians the vote if West Bank territories were annexed.

    More than a half of those questioned said Jews should be given preference over Arabs when applying for jobs in the government sector. And slightly under half favored legalized discrimination of Arabs, saying that the state should “treat Jewish citizens better than Arab ones.”

    The survey also revealed that people of ultra-religious views demonstrated more discriminatory attitudes, with 82 percent saying Jews should be given preferential treatment over Arabs. Secular responders generally expressed more pluralistic views.

    In its report, Haaretz claimed that the survey was initiated by the New Israeli Fund, a US-based NGO. But the NIF denied any involvement, saying the poll “was not commissioned or sponsored or in any way related to the New Israel Fund,” but set up by Goldblum Fund, an organization with which it had only indirect links.

    The Israeli press generally reacted with outrage to the results, questioning the survey’s methodology and its coverage in Haaretz.

    “The Haaretz article acknowledged that the survey conductors say perhaps the term ‘apartheid’ was not clear enough to some interviewees,” The Times of Israel said on Tuesday. The newspaper also noted that the reporting on the survey results and the followup opinion piece were both written by Gideon Levy, “a Haaretz columnist known for fierce criticism of Israeli policies regarding the Palestinians.”

    The Jewish Chronicle lashed out at Levy, saying he “deliberately fed the international media a skewed and biased reading of a poll, in order to promote his treachery.”
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    Of course its an aparthied state - it is a fact and lets never let it rest until equality is shared for all.
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    Something is rotten in the state of Israel

    Palestinians Take Weapon from IDF Soldier in Guard

    Tov Roy | Sunday, December 23, 2012, 21:53 Beijing

    On December 21, 2012, an unusual event took place at the gate of the IDF Ramah Base, near the Palestinian town of a-Ram*, northwest of Jerusalem.

    Two Palestinians approached the gate and took the weapon of the soldier guarding it. This happened just days after that in two different events, IDF soldiers run away from Palestinians throwing stones at them, despite their being armed (see IDF Open-Fire Regulations Backfire).

    “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark,” Shakespeare wrote a long time ago; nowadays he probably would have rephrased “Something is rotten in the state of Israel.” This is true to such an extent that its soldiers prefer to run away from its horrors.

    Before describing the peculiarity of this event, I must make justice. This is far from being the first time Palestinians take weapons from IDF soldiers. In average between 100 and 150 weapons are stolen every year, mostly from soldiers traveling to their homes for the weekend.

    For this reason, last year, the IDF lowered substantially the number of soldiers that went home with weapons. Still, 80 weapons were stolen in 2011. The current event has been defined by IDF commanders as “serious,” and as a “terrorist act.” These definitions carry on operational consequences.

    An artillery corps soldier from the “Reshef” Battalion 402, entered a cosy booth that isolated him from the cold Jerusalemite night. Inside, he made himself comfortable. As usual in winter, it was a rainy night. His force was there providing peripheral security to a secondary base; nothing was expected to happen. Apparently, he fall asleep. For sure, he wasn’t looking around.

    Not far from there, two still unidentified Palestinians cut the fence of the base, entered it, and without hesitation approached the booth. They were carrying a mock rifle. When they tried to open the booth’s door, the soldier realized he had guests.

    Non-chalantly, he opened the door and the Palestinians confronted him, threatening with a wooden weapon. Against all orders and common sense, the soldier handed his weapon to the attackers. At this moment, he was sprayed with pepper and the attackers left the site. Minutes later the soldier contacted the headquarters and mayhem begun. It was too late, the gun was gone.

    A brigadier general is brought to the scene of crime

    One thing is robbing a weapon from a lonely soldier walking alone through a deserted alley in his way home; a very different event is stealing a weapon from a soldier in duty.

    One doesn’t need to be a general in order to understand that the latter is a grave event, and I refer to both meanings of the word. Once the peripheral security of a military base is broken, disasters may easily develop.

    After entering, the intruders may get access to weapon depots, activate military equipment, kidnap and kill soldiers. This is just the shortlist.

    After the soldier reported about the event, Brigadier General Hagai Mordechai, commander of the West Bank Division (Ugdat Ezor Yehuda VeShomron, the same commander featured in IDF Open-Fire Regulations Backfire), was hurried to the base and an investigation began.

    One of its main goals is to establish whether the soldier was instructed properly before his shift. This will determine if the soldier alone is to be punished, or if his officers will also be jailed. Meanwhile, the soldier is detained in the base.

    The other issue being investigated is why the soldier didn’t use his weapon. Open-Fire regulations are a bit sketchy in the IDF, but there is no doubt than when an armed soldier is in danger of being killed, he has the right to defend himself using his weapon. He would have been acquitted by any martial court.

    Moreover, he could have reacted softly, by shooting the arms or legs of the attackers instead of killing them. No military regulations allow handing weapons to attackers.

    In a sad attempt to control the damage, the military commanders told the Hebrew media that the event was not of a military nature, but a regular criminal robbery. They explained that by citing the fact that the life of the soldier was spared.

    Other explanations were not even considered since even this soft and questionable argument is “harming deterrence,” as Israelis like to say. The Palestinians were professionals, shooting the soldier would have brought unwanted attention to their escape.

    Yet, Israeli newspapers managed to find soldiers sharply describing the event. “Maybe women from the Border Guard should be brought to guard the soldiers,” one of them said. Something is rotten in the State of Israel.

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    “al” is the Arabic article; it is transliterated in a variety of ways depending on various factors. a-Ram is also spelled out in Latin letters as al-Ram, and even ar-Ram. The actual sound is closer to what English speakers will hear like ah-ram.

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    UNITED NATIONS - When Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas decided to defy the United States and Israel over stalled peace negotiations, he formally indicated to the United Nations last week that Palestine will join 15 international conventions relating mostly to the protection of human rights and treaties governing conflicts and prisoners of war.

    But he held back one of his key bargaining chips that Israel and the United States fear most: becoming a party to the Rome Statute that created the International Criminal Court (ICC) to punish war crimes and genocide - and where Israelis could be docked.

    Asked whether it was a wise move, Darryl Li, a post-doctoral research scholar at Columbia University, told IPS, "I would call it a clever move, not necessarily a wise one."

    There's no question avoidance of ICC was deliberate; that's clearly a US-Israeli "red line," he said. So it makes sense as a way to prolong negotiations.

    A flurry of treaty signing

    The United Nations said last week it had received 13 of the 15 letters for accession to international conventions and treaties deposited with the world body.

    They include the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations; Vienna Convention on Consular Relations; Convention on the Rights of the Child and the Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child on the Involvement of Children in armed conflict; Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women; Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities.

    Also included were the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties; International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination; Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment; United Nations Convention against Corruption; Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide; International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid; International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights; and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights.

    Meanwhile, accession letters for the following two conventions were submitted respectively to the Swiss and Dutch representatives respectively: the Four Geneva Conventions of August 12, 1949, and the First Additional Protocol, for the Swiss; and the Hague Convention (IV) respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land and its annex: Regulations Concerning the Laws and Customs of War on Land, for the Dutch.

    "But since the current framework for negotiations won't yield just outcomes due to the Palestinians' lack of leverage, I wouldn't call it 'wise'," Li said.

    In a blog post for the Middle East Research and Information Project (MERIP) last week, Li underlined the political double standards: "Israel demands that Washington release the convicted spy Jonathan Pollard while the Palestinians are blamed for voluntarily shouldering obligations to respect human rights and the laws of war."

    Joe Stork, deputy Middle East director at Human Rights Watch (HRW), said, "It is disturbing that the Obama administration, which already has a record of resisting international accountability for Israeli rights abuses, would also oppose steps to adopt treaties requiring Palestinian authorities to uphold human rights."

    He said the US administration should press both the Palestinians and the Israelis to better abide by international human rights standards.

    In a statement released on Monday, HRW said Palestine's adoption of human rights and laws-of-war treaties would not cause any change in Israel's international legal obligations.

    The US government should support rather than oppose Palestinian actions to join international treaties that promote respect for human rights.

    HRW also said that US Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power last week testified before congress that in response to the new Palestinian actions, the solemn commitment by the US to stand with Israel "extends to our firm opposition to any and all unilateral [Palestinian] actions in the international arena".

    She said Washington is absolutely adamant that Palestine should not join the ICC because it poses a profound threat to Israel and would be devastating to the peace process.

    The rights group pointed out the ratification of The Hague Regulations and Geneva Conventions would strengthen the obligations of Palestinian forces to abide by international rules on armed conflict.

    Armed groups in Gaza, which operate outside the authority or effective control of the Palestinian leadership that signed the treaties, have committed war crimes by launching indiscriminate rocket attacks against Israeli population centers, HRW said.

    HRW also said Washington appears to oppose Palestine joining human rights treaties in part because it is afraid they will gain greater support for Palestinian statehood outside the framework of negotiations with Israel.

    Li said the choice of agreements signed indicated a desire to ruffle feathers but go no further.

    Notably, Abbas did not sign the Rome Convention of the ICC, which would have exposed Israeli officials to the possibility, however remote, of prosecution for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

    Moreover, Abbas also declined to set into motion membership applications to any of the United Nation's various specialized agencies, such as the World Health Organization (WHO) or Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO).

    Such a move would have triggered provisions under US law that automatically cut US funding to those bodies, as occurred when Palestine joined the U.N. Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization in 2011, Li wrote in his blog post.

    Meanwhile, the group known as The Elders, which includes former world political leaders, said in a statement on Monday that the Palestinian move is consistent with the UN non-member observer state status obtained by Palestine in November 2012.

    Gro Harlem Brundtland, former Norwegian prime minister and deputy chair of The Elders, said, "As a UN non-member observer state, Palestine is entitled to join international bodies. We welcome President Abbas' decision to sign the Geneva Conventions and other important international human rights treaties."

    This move opens the way to more inclusive and accountable government in the West Bank and Gaza, she added.

    It has the potential to strengthen respect for human rights and provide ordinary Palestinians with essential legal protections against discrimination or abuses by their own government, Brundtland noted.

    "In global terms, it will also increase their ability to enjoy, in practice, the protection of their basic rights granted to them by international law," she said.

    Former US President Jimmy Carter, also a member of The Elders, said the decision by the Palestinians to exercise their right to join international organizations should not be seen as a blow to peace talks.

    "I hope that, on the contrary, it will help to redress the power imbalance between Israelis and Palestinians, as we approach the 29 April deadline set by [US Secretary of State John] Kerry."

    More than ever, he said, both parties urgently need to make the necessary compromises to reach a lasting peace with two states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace and security.

    (Inter Press Service)

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    The Palestinians must be given their due rights, we Muslims stand by our Palestinian brothers.

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    Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas will prevent any uprising in the West Bank despite escalating tensions with Israel, his foreign minister said on Friday.

    Palestinian Foreign Minister Riad al-Malki told Reuters that a massive Israeli military sweep following the disappearance of three Jewish youths a week ago were unacceptable, but said Abbas would continue assisting Israel in an effort to end the crisis.

    "We will do our utmost to help because if the situation continues as it is, this will end up (with) the destruction of what we have built in Palestine," Malki said.

    Malki also warned that a recent reconciliation deal with the Islamist group Hamas would be threatened if, as Israel said, it was responsible for abducting the three youths as they hitchhiked near a Jewish settlement in the West Bank.

    After seven years of feuding, Abbas's secular Fatah movement and its rival Hamas agreed earlier this month to the formation of a unity government, but the disappearance of the seminary students has put an immediate strain on their accord.

    "If Hamas is behind it, and nobody knows up until now, then it will be a blow to the reconciliation process," Malki said. "If we reach that conclusion, then the president will take drastic decisions," he said, without elaborating.

    Hamas, which refuses to recognise Israel, has not confirmed or denied accusations that it was behind the abduction.

    Some Hamas officials have warned of an Intifada (uprising) if the Israeli raids continue. Two Palestinians have died in the military crackdown this week and violent clashes have broken out in various locations. Israel says it has arrested some 330 Palestinians, including 240 from Hamas.

    Malki said that although the Israeli reaction "went beyond logic", the Palestinian Authority was committed to peace.

    "I can assure you that as long as President Abu Mazen is in charge, there will be no third Intifada," he said, referring to Abbas. However, he acknowledged that the president's credibility might be undermined because of his decision to help Israel.

    Underscoring tensions in the West Bank, security forces loyal to Abbas broke up a pro-Hamas rally in Hebron on Friday, using riot shields and batons to disperse the small crowd.

    Malki urged foreign governments to denounce Israeli "atrocities", saying their silence gave Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "the green light to destroy, kill (and) upset the life of all the Palestinian people".

    Israel has promised to dismantle Hamas's operations in the West Bank, saying it has clear evidence the group was behind the abduction. It has not given any further details and officials say in private they have no idea where the youths might be.
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    LIVE UPDATES: Israel searches for teens kidnapped in West Bank, day 6
    U.S. calls on Israelis, Palestinians to 'show restraint'; two rockets fired from Gaza; no casualties reported; PM responds coldly to Palestinian president's condemnation of kidnapping, says should dismantle unity gov't with Hamas.

    Concern grows for the lives of the three Israeli kidnapped teenagers, as efforts to locate and rescue them have entered their seventh day.

    Israel's security forces overnight Wednesday arrested 65 Palestinians, 50 of whom were among the 1,027 prisoners released by Israel in 2011, as part of an exchange deal to free IDF soldier Gilad Shalit from Hamas captivity. 240 arrests were made since the start of the operation on Friday, 180 members of them Hamas men.

    In bid to increase pressure on Hamas, the cabinet decided on Tuesday to worsen the conditions of members of the organization held in Israeli prisons. In addition, the government is weighing whether to expel top Hamas officials from the West Bank to Gaza.

    "The campaign against Hamas is complicated and prolonged. It didn't start today and it will not end soon. We're hitting Hamas in every dimension," Maj. Gen. Nitzan Alon, who commands the military in the West Bank, said on Tuesday. He added that Hamas leaders "are feeling the heat and getting the message."

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    Latest updates:

    22:38 P.M. The chief rabbi of Hebron and Kiryat Arba, Dov Lior, claims that the Israeli government's "anti-Jewish" legislation is to blame for the teens' kidnapping.

    "Unfortunately, we are witness to a severe decline in the government's dealings with the Jewish character of the state," Lior wrote in a Facebook post. "There has been a spate of new laws whose common denominator is the undermining of the Jewish quality of our public life."

    22:26 P.M. Assailants attempt to run over troops near an IDF post in the Bethlehem vicinity; none wounded. Soldiers open fire toward the car, which flees. (Gili Cohen)

    22:21 P.M. Spokeswoman of U.S. State Department Jen Psaki calls on Israelis, Palestinians to "show restraint during this difficult period."

    9:32 P.M. Rocket lands in Kibbutz in Sha'ar Hanegev Regional Council and causes damage to a house; no casualties reported. Another rocket lands in open area. Rocket alert was sounded throughout region, and in Sderot (Haaretz)

    9:12 P.M. "While both the efforts to locate and rescue the three yeshiva students and the anguish felt by the great majority of Israelis are very real, there is a growing recognition that the ongoing saga is about much more than their fate. Indeed, for the security establishment, for the government and for the pro-settler camp, it is much more." Read more in Anshel Pfeffer's analysis: The not-so hidden agendas behind the kidnapping crisis

    8:18 P.M. Prime Minister's office reacts coldly to Abbas' statement, in which the Palestinian president harshly condemned the kidnapping. "Abbas' words will be evaluated according to the PA's efforts to return the kidnapped boys safely home, and the real test is the dismantling of the agreement with Hamas," sources in the PM's office say. (Barak Ravid)

    7:55 P.M. Police Commissioner Yohanan Danino issues statement, announces setting up of committee to investigate police's handling of the first hours of the kidnapping. "I am aware of the public criticism […] regarding the handling of the phone call which was received on the night of the kidnapping. As I have said before, any criticism aired about the police's conduct will thoroughly investigated, with utmost seriousness." (Yaniv Kubovich)

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    7:04 P.M. The families of the three kidnapped boys listened to the full two-minute recording of the distress call made by one of the boys on the eve of the kidnapping.

    A civilian source who listened to a recording of the call said the teen's words, while said quickly and in a whisper, were clear and comprehensible. After the hotline operator answers, the boy is heard saying "I have been kidnapped."

    Public Security Minister Yitzhak Aharonovich earlier today called criticism of the police hotline justified. He also said the teen's call was difficult to understand, and promised to have it made public. (Haaretz)

    6:52 P.M. Deputy minister Ofir Akunis spoke after visited the Shaer family residence in Talmon. "The arrest of the prisoners who were released as part of the Shalit deal is just one in a series of steps we have reserved. We will do anything to get the children home." ..." Abbas will be judged by his actions- not his words – and the first action he must do is dismantle the terror government he has set up. (Jonathan Lis)

    5:56 P.M. West Bank division commander: "Every bit of information, every single detainee can help us in our goal of bringing the boys back home. In the coming days we plan to act in areas where we have not gotten to as much, and carry out raids on Hamas operations. (Haaretz)

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    5:16 P.M. The IDF is deliberately putting previously released Palestinian prisoners back in jail, Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon says, apparently in a bid to demonstrate that abducting Israelis will not help Palestinian prisoners.

    Israel arrested 65 Palestinian prisoners overnight Wednesday, of whom 53 were freed in the 2011 prisoner swap that secured the release of 1,027 prisoners in exchange for Gilad Shalit, the Israel Defense Forces soldier taken captive in 2006.

    "The clear message is that not only are we taking action to release the boys, but also that when there is an abduction, we will put those who have been released back in jail," Ya'alon said in a meeting with the families of the abducted teens.

    By late May, Israel had re-arrested 44 of the prisoners released in the Shalit swap, for suspected violations of the conditions of their release.

    "So far no one has taken responsibility, and we have not received any demands," Ya'alon told the families. He said the defense establishment would not rest "until we get our hands on the kidnappers and bring the boys back." (Gili Cohen)

    5:13 P.M. Former Fatah leader Mohammed Dahlan: Abbas' response to kidnapping akin to abandonment of the Palestinian people (Haaretz)

    5:00 P.M. Hamas condemns Abbas' move to cooperate with Israel to find missing teens:

    2:56 P.M. Opposition chief and Labor Party head Isaac Herzog commends President Mahmoud Abbas' call to free the three kidnapped Israeli teenagers. After a phone conversation with the Palestinian president, Herzog said: "We must shape reality in the region and strengthen the moderate voices and Abu Mazen (Abbas) through dialogue," he said.

    Herzog calls on Israel and the Palestinians to renew negotiations after the conclusion of Operation Brother's Keeper to retrieve the three kidnapped Israelis. (Jonathan Lis)

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    2:22 P.M. Justice Minister Tzipi Livni praises Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' call earlier Wednesday for the return of the kidnapped Israeli teens. "The words we heard from Abu Mazen (Abbas) today are important, accurate and they reflect the true reality," she says.

    "Hamas is an Islamist terror organization that hurts civilian and children, and is not waging war for the sake of the Palestinian people and its national aspirations, but against Israel's existence, and shouldn't be granted legitimacy," Livni adds.

    Livni calls on moderate Palestinians and the moderate Arab world to join hands with Israel and the international community, and together fight Hamas, "corner and isolate it" and thus return to the negotiation table and revive the idea of a two-state solution. (Barak Ravid)

    11:50 A.M. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas calls for the return of the three Israeli teens kidnapped last week in the West Bank, telling foreign ministers of Muslim states gathered in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia that the abductors were "seeking the destruction of the [Palestinian] Authority. (Jack Khoury)

    11:30 A.M. In a meeting with mayors from cities around the world, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says that Israel is in the midst of a wide operation aimed against "the terrorists who harm, kill and abduct" Israeli citizens and want to destroy the state of Israel. (Barak Ravid)

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    8:15 A.M. Prime Minister Netanyahu praises the soldiers, commanders and Shin Bet for the overnight operation in which some 50 former prisoners freed in the Shalit deal were arrested. (Haaretz)

    7:20 A.M. The IDF overnight confiscated documents and computers from five Hamas charity centers, which are considered a part of the Dawa, the organization's civilian wing. Since the start of the operation, Israeli security forces raided 11 such institutions.

    A military commander says Israel expanded the operation and began arresting Palestinian prisoners released in the Gilad Shalit swap in 2011. A statement issued by the IDF Spokesperson's unit says out of 65 Palestinians arrested overnight, 50 of them were freed in return for the release of the soldier from captivity. It said the men were taken for interrogation. (Gili Cohen)

    6:50 A.M. 240 arrests made since start of Operation Brother’s Keeper, 180 of them Hamas men. (Gili Cohen)

    1:07 A.M. Minister of Defense Moshe Ya'alon will meet with the families of the kidnapped youths on Wednesday in Tel Aviv. (Haaretz)
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    Lets hope the kids are returned safely.
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    Lets hope the kids are returned safely.
    Indeed lets hope.

    Israel have yet again majorly overreacted in arresting 100s of people that have obviously nothing to do with this incident.
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    Hamas refutes Israeli claims over abduction of teenagers

    The Palestinian Islamic resistance movement Hamas rejects as baseless Israel’s claim that the movement is involved in the alleged abduction of three Israeli youths in the West Bank.

    Hamas Political Bureau Chief Khaled Meshaal says the resistance movement has no information about the Israelis.

    He also says even if the missing Israelis turn out to have been captured, their kidnapping would be a logical and natural reaction to the violations of occupation forces.

    Meshaal also slammed security coordination between the now president of the Palestinian national unity government Mahmoud Abbas and Israel. Earlier, Abbas vowed to maintain security coordination with Israel.

    Hamas says Tel Aviv’s allegation of abducting three Israeli settlers by Hamas is aimed at torpedoing the recent reconciliation deal between Hamas and Fatah.

    Israeli forces have arrested dozens of Palestinians, including members of the resistance movement Hamas, as part of a search campaign for three teenage settlers who have gone missing in the occupied West Bank for a few days now.

    Israeli forces have completely sealed off the city of al-Khalil (Hebron) and have raided many homes there.

    The teenagers disappeared on June 12 near a settlement north of the city.

    In April, Palestinian factions Fatah and Hamas signed an agreement to end years of rivalry and form a unity government.

    The United Nations hailed the formation of the Palestinian unity government.

    The Israeli regime and its staunch supporter, the United States, have reacted angrily to the Palestinian deal. While Washington expressed disappointment over the deal, the Israeli regime cancelled the so-called peace talks with the Palestinian Authority.

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    Bodies of Three Missing Israeli Teens Found Near Hebron

    The bodies of three Israeli teenagers who were kidnapped in the West Bank earlier this month have been found north of the city of Hebron, Israeli media reported today.

    An emergency cabinet meeting has been called for 2:30 p.m. ET, and an announcement could come during or after the meeting, a source told ABC News. An Israeli Defense Force briefing is also expected.

    Hamas, the Palestinian militant group accused by Israel of taking the boys, has denied kidnapping the teens, though senior Israeli and Palestinian officials agree that the abductors were likely tied to -- or part of -- Hamas but operating without orders from the organization's leadership.

    One of the teens, 16-year-old Naftali Frenkel, had dual U.S.-Israeli citizenship and his family is from Brooklyn, N.Y. The two others were Gilad Shaar and Eyal Yifrach.

    Israeli forces have conducted raids in the West Bank in the search for the teens and their kidnappers since they were abducted on June 12. Since the search started, more than 240 Palestinians have been arrested in the operation dubbed "Brother's Keeper," the army said.

    Knesset sessions for tonight have been cancelled, according to Israeli media reports.

    There are reports that Israeli soldiers have already been deployed in Hebron, and Israeli TV stations earlier showed pictures of soldiers searching through rubble and military vehicles moving through the village of Halhul, just north of Hebron.

    At the end of a White House press briefing, Press Secretary Josh Earnest was asked about the report of the deaths, news of which broke in the middle of the briefing.

    “We obviously condemn in the strongest possible term, violence that takes the lives of innocent civilians,” he said. “But I don’t want to react any further without having a chance to take a look at that report myself.”
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    Re: Bodies of Three Missing Israeli Teens Found Near Hebron


    Get ready for a slaughter of the innocent in retaliation.

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    Re: 3 Israeli teenagers kidnapped, Israel takes action

    They will kill 30 or maybe 300 to avenge the death of.3 youths. Sad development indeed, get ready for retaliation.
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    RIP - Hamas have denied involvement but they wont be believed.

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    Sad situation,may they rest in peace.
    There will never be peace between Israel and the Palestinians,only more hate.

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    Sad waste. RIP

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    The debate on a Palestinian state

    By more than a 2-1 margin, Palestinians oppose the two-state solution, favoring instead the goal of a Palestinian state "from the river to the sea," according to a recent poll by the centrist Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

    At the same time, though, the poll found that a large majority of Palestinians favored the tactic of "popular resistance" – such as demonstrations and strikes – over violence to achieve their goals, Globes reported Sunday.

    Interestingly, Gazans were more moderate when it came to tactics, but more hardline about the goal.

    The survey also found that West Bank leader Mahmoud Abbas was a much more popular leader than Gazan leader Ismail Haniyeh – both in the West Bank (28.1 percent to 6.9 percent) and in the Gaza Strip (32.4 percent to 11.7 percent).

    The poll, which questioned a relatively large sample of 1,200 respondents, was taken June 15-17 – following the abductions of three Israeli teenagers, the formation of the Fatah-Hamas unity government, and the collapse of the Kerry peace talks. However, it was conducted just before West Bank protests arose against Abbas for his cooperation with Israel's search for the kidnapped boys and crackdown on Hamas.

    Goals vs. tactics

    Asked what political goal they favored over the next five years, 60.3 percent replied "action to return historic Palestine, from the river to the sea, to our hands," while 27.3 percent answered "end[ing] the occupation of the West Bank in order to reach a two-state solution."

    Another 10.1 percent said the goal should be a "one-state solution, for the entire region, from the river to the sea, in which Jews and Arabs enjoy equal rights.”

    If a Palestinian leadership were to reach agreement with Israel on a two-state deal, 64 percent said Palestinians should still continue to press on for a Palestinian state encompassing the territories and Israel, while 31.6 percent said they would accept a two-state solution.

    On the question of tactics, again, the trend was toward moderation, with 70 percent of Gazans and 56 percent of West Bankers saying Hamas should observe a cease-fire with Israel. Asked if Hamas should go along with Abbas' demand that the unity government publicly renounce violence, 57 percent of Gazans agreed, while West Bankers were split evenly.

    Popular resistance won the support of 73 percent Palestinians in Gaza and 62 percent of those in the West Bank.

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