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    Re: Israeli Palestininian conflict

    Israel has agreed to extend a ceasefire in Gaza by four hours to (21:00 GMT), a military spokesman has told the BBC.

    There was no immediate decision from Palestinian militant group Hamas.

    Gaza residents have been using the 12-hour humanitarian ceasefire agreed earlier between the two sides to recover bodies and gather supplies.

    More than 1,000 Palestinians, mostly civilians, and 42 Israelis - two civilians - have been killed since the Israel-Hamas conflict began on 8 July.

    About 5,870 Palestinians have been wounded in the 19 days of fighting, Gaza health officials say.

    'Roll-over' truce
    The original truce was due to expire at 20:00 local time (17:00 GMT).

    A senior Israeli official told the BBC that the UN had requested a 24-hour extension to the ceasefire.

    "At the first stage, the cabinet approved, in a phone vote, four more hours until midnight, in order to allow the cabinet to convene and discuss the UN's request," the official said.

    "The IDF [Israel Defense Forces] maintains the humanitarian pause, during which, the IDF's activity to neutralise the [Hamas] tunnels will continue."

    Mahmoud Al-Zahar, a senior Hamas member, said the group had not yet agreed to an extension, and that "any ceasefire agreement must befit the sacrifice and price paid by the Palestinian people in Gaza, and the firm stance by the resistance", Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported.

    A rocket is seen as it is fired from the northern Gaza Strip towards Israel, 25 July 2014
    Palestinian fighters have been firing rockets from Gaza into Israel
    After talks in the French capital, Paris, foreign ministers from the US, Turkey, Qatar and several European countries urged both sides to extend the truce.

    UK Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond told the BBC it was vital to get "the ceasefire to roll over... again and again, until we've established the level of confidence that allows the parties to sit round a table to talk around the substantive issues".

    Israel launched its military offensive with the declared objective of stopping Hamas firing rockets from Gaza into Israel.

    It also began a ground offensive on 18 July, saying it was necessary to destroy tunnels dug by militants to infiltrate Israel.

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    Re: Beautiful dream of Israel has become a nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Badmaash View Post
    He's either an ignoramus (about par for the average American) or Dr. Goebbels (lite version). I haven't yet decided.

    If Israel was a great country, the very American Jews who support it rabidly would be moving there themselves. They don't. The same way British and French Jews don't. Israelis who can leave are leaving or at least trying to finagle second passports for themselves. Economic and social conditions ain't that hot in Israel.
    Thanks for the insulting, I don't think the average American can get into Columbia University. And for your information, many American Jews have spent time in Israel, I am Christian, but many Jewish people I know have spent time in Israel, and loved it there. They do complain about the rocket fire from Hamas making the area relatively unsafe though.

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    Re: Israeli Palestininian conflict

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    85 bodies recovered from Gaza rubble; baby saved from dead mother’s womb

    GAZA CITY/PARIS: The bodies of at least 85 Palestinians were recovered from the rubble across the Gaza Strip in the first half of a 12-hour humanitarian truce on Saturday, medics said.

    Emergency services spokesman Ashraf al-Qudra said the 85 bodies had been brought to hospitals in north, central and southern Gaza, as well as Gaza City, but that the toll was expected to rise further still.
    The grim discoveries raised the toll in Gaza on the 19th day of the conflict between Israel and the Palestinian Hamas group to 985, Qudra said.

    In northern Gaza, particularly the area of Beit Hanun, medics recovered 32 bodies, Qudra said, along with another 13 people discovered in the central areas of Bureij, Deir al-Balah and Nusseirat. Gaza City's Shifa hospital received 29 bodies from the eastern neighbourhoods of Shejaiya, Zaitun and Tuffah, and 11 other bodies were taken to hospitals from the southern areas of Khan Yunis and Rafah, Qudra added.

    On Friday, Israeli fire on Gaza killed a pregnant woman and a senior Islamic Jihad figure, as the Palestinian death toll from 18 days of violence reached 848, emergency services said. Surgeons saved the life of the 23-year-old woman's unborn child after the air strike hit a house in the central Gaza town of Deir al-Balah, Qudra said.



    Another air raid killed a senior spokesman for Islamic Jihad, the second largest militant group in Gaza after Hamas, which dominates the territory. Salah Hasanein's sons, 12 and 15, were also killed in the strike in the southern city of Rafah, Qudra said.

    Islamic Jihad confirmed the deaths.

    The strikes took the Palestinian death toll in Gaza since Israel launched its offensive on July 8 to 848. Rockets and mortar rounds fired into Israel have killed three civilians — two Israelis and a Thai farm worker — and fighting in and around Gaza has killed 35 Israeli soldiers.

    World leaders press for long-term truce

    Meanwhile in Paris, US secretary of state John Kerry and other top diplomats from Europe and the Middle East held talks to press efforts for a long-term ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.

    Kerry met with French foreign minister Laurent Fabius and their counterparts from Britain, Germany, Italy, Qatar and Turkey as a 12-hour "humanitarian" truce in Gaza entered into force.

    EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton was not present as she was attending her daughter's wedding, but her deputy Pierre Vimont came in her place.

    More than 900 Palestinians — a large majority of them civilians — have died in a 19-day Israeli offensive on Hamas-ruled Gaza that was launched in response to rockets fired by militants of the Islamist group into the Jewish state.

    The Israeli army meanwhile has suffered 37 casualties and world powers are rushing to try and negotiate a lasting ceasefire to avoid more deaths.
    "It's now about reaching a common position that we must put an end to the deaths," German foreign minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said before the talks began.

    Kerry, who has been leading international efforts to reach a truce, has been in regular contact with the foreign ministers of Turkey and Qatar as both countries yield influence on Hamas.

    Hamas chief Khaled Meshaal is based in Qatar, while Turkey's Islamic-oriented prime minister has strongly criticised Israel's assault on Gaza as well as Egypt's role in trying to clinch a ceasefire.

    Kerry failed to secure a lasting deal in Cairo Friday where he met with his Egyptian counterpart Sameh Shoukri and UN chief Ban Ki-moon.

    The United States has worked with Egypt on a plan that, diplomats say, would provide a seven-day truce during which the two sides would negotiate a longer-term deal.

    But while Israel and Hamas agreed to the temporary ceasefire on humanitarian grounds, they have rejected any form of lasting truce.

    Unlike his Islamist predecessor Mohamed Morsi whom he toppled and detained last year, current Egyptian leader Abdel Fattah al-Sisi has sought to isolate the militant Palestinian movement in the neighbouring Gaza Strip.

    Egypt's foreign minister was pointedly absent from the Paris meeting, which France dismissed by saying that Egypt was still closely associated with the talks.

    Speaking in Cairo Friday after his plan was rejected, Kerry said Israel and Hamas "still have some terminology" to agree to on a ceasefire, but added they had a "fundamental framework" on a truce.

    Still, the two sides remain at odds over the shape of a final deal. Hamas says any truce must include a guaranteed end to Israel's eight-year blockade of Gaza, while in Israel there are calls for any deal to include the demilitarization of the Gaza Strip.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/w...w/39053461.cms
    A tragedy just happening.

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    Re: Israeli Palestininian conflict

    Another ceasefire till tomorrow. 9pm GMT

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    They continue pulling the bodies out. A ceasefire I reckon to allow a body count. Thank you Israel.

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    Re: Israeli Palestininian conflict

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenstar View Post
    A tragedy. Notice there are names of whole families slaughtered together. Israeli have lost all respect if they ever had any. BASTARDS
    And Egypt is not to blame?

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    The children of Gaza

    A friend just sent me this. Made me quite emotional.........

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    Re: Israeli Palestininian conflict

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    And Egypt is not to blame?
    Why bkame Egypt more than any other middle east nation sir?
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    Re: Israeli Palestininian conflict

    Quote Originally Posted by ManojKumar View Post
    Why bkame Egypt more than any other middle east nation sir?
    On a humanitarian level,Egypt could have opened the border for the refugees,it didnt therefore entire families dead.
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    Re: The children of Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Superkaif View Post
    A friend just sent me this. Made me quite emotional.........

    This is so heartbreaking, the average age of a Gaza citizen is 17 years old, and many of the so called Hamas fighters Israel is targeting are actually little children, from a few months to a few years old. No condemnation from the world, and little children are being killed.
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    Re: The children of Gaza

    That poor girl and her eyes got me.
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    Re: The children of Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by ManojKumar View Post
    That poor girl and her eyes got me.
    I don't understand how Israel could claim they are targeting terrorists or killing them, when they are quite clearly killing little children. Made my heart sick watching those scenes.
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    Re: Israeli Palestininian conflict

    The scum have started the pounding. End of truce.

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    Israel resumes deadly strikes against Gaza Strip

    Israel has put an abrupt end to a humanitarian ceasefire requested by the United Nations, resuming its fatal military attacks against Palestinians in the besieged Gaza Strip, Press TV reports.

    On Sunday, the Israeli military said it was resuming its ground offensive and airstrikes against the impoverished Palestinian territory after members of the Islamic resistance movement Hamas fired a salvo of rockets at southern Israel.

    “Following Hamas’ incessant rocket fire, the (army) will now resume its aerial, naval and ground activity in the Gaza Strip,” a military statement said.

    Residents in Gaza reported hearing heavy shelling east of Gaza City shortly after the announcement was made. Israeli tanks and warplanes also started pounding targets inside the Gaza Strip.

    At least three Palestinians have been killed in the fresh Israeli bombardments against Gaza.

    The latest attacks come following a 12-hour humanitarian ceasefire, which had taken effect on Saturday. There had been calls for the extension of the truce.

    Hamas announced that it would not accept any long-term ceasefire unless Israeli troops withdrew from the Gaza Strip. It also demanded the return of Palestinians to their homes and the free movement of ambulances.

    The Palestinian death toll from three weeks of Israeli strikes has reached about 1,052 and at least 6,000 Palestinians have been injured in the onslaught.

    Israel has been carrying out military attacks against the blockaded Gaza Strip since July 8.

    While Israel says 43 Israelis have been killed in the war, Hamas sources put the number at about 90.

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    Around 50 arrested at banned pro-Palestinian protest in Paris


    Saturday, 26 July 2014
    Police arrested around 50 people at a banned pro-Palestinian protest in central Paris on Saturday that degenerated into clashes between demonstrators and armour-clad riot squads.

    The rally, which gathered an estimated 5,000 people in the capital’s Place de la Republique, dispersed after 90 minutes during which police who were targeted with rocks and other projectiles responded with tear gas.

    The demonstration against Israel’s Gaza offensive that has killed more than 1,000 Palestinians comes after other protests last weekend in Paris and a suburb that had also initially been banned descended into chaos.

    Organisers of Saturday’s protest had tried going to court to get the ban overturned, but they were unsuccessful and Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve warned that they would be held “responsible for any unrest... and liable to penal sanctions”.

    Of those arrested, some 30 people were detained pending decisions on whether to charge them, according to preliminary figures.

    A police source said officers were under strict orders to take in people who made anti-Jewish statements or gestures.

    The crowd had turned out with many holding aloft Palestinian flags and the red banners of the far-left New Anticapitalist Party that had called on people to defy the ban.

    “Israel clear out of Palestine, the era of settlements is over”, “Israel assassin, Hollande accomplice”, “Israel, **** off, Palestine isn’t yours” were some of the slogans shouted by protesters.

    After an initial peaceful start, police began firing tear gas when some hooded protestors threw cans and other objects at them, and several journalists covering the event were roughed up.

    Some 2,000 police were mobilised, and many of them were present on the square to stop the rally from moving on to other parts of the French capital.

    Elsewhere in the country, nearly 10,000 people turned out in the eastern city of Lyon for a similar protest, though it was not banned and went off peacefully.

    In the southern cities of Marseille and Nice, hundreds also turned up in support for Palestinians.

    The Israel-Gaza conflict has stirred passions in France, home to the largest Muslim and Jewish communities in western Europe with around five million Muslims and half a million Jews.

    While many protests around the country have gone smoothly, some recent demonstrations in Paris and the suburb town of Sarcelles have descended into chaos.

    In Sarcelles last weekend, Jewish businesses were looted and in one violent Paris demonstration two weeks ago, protesters tried to storm two synagogues, raising concerns among the Jewish community about anti-Semitism.

    But on Wednesday, several thousand people protested peacefully in Paris. Police said the rally attracted about 14,500 people, while organizers put the figure at 25,000.

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    Holding signs emblazoned with slogans like “Boycott Israeli Apartheid” and “New York Jews Say: Not in Our Name,” hundreds of protesters marched through lower Manhattan on Thursday demanding an end to American support for Israel’s operation in Gaza.

    The event was one of many held in the U.S. and around the world as part of a “national day of action” against Israel’s Gaza campaign. Two Jewish groups, Jewish Voices for Peace and Jews Say No!, were among the march’s organizers, and numerous Jews came to protest Israel’s military campaign.

    “I’m here because of the massacre that has recently happened, but also because of the ongoing occupation,” said Anna Jacobs, who was pushing her toddler in a stroller.

    Standing nearby, Jews Say No! activist Dorothy Zellner lamented that outsiders assume the Jewish community uniformly supports Israel. “This is heartbreaking. Everyone thinks Israel represents us and speaks for us,” she said.

    “I think there’s a myth that the Jewish community supports the Israeli attack on Gaza,” she added, and asserted that there are “hundreds of thousands” of Jews in the U.S. that oppose the Israeli occupation.

    Most of the Jewish protesters interviewed opposed Israeli policies long before the current campaign. But they view the current hostilities as deplorable, or even criminal.

    “It’s with our weapons, and our funding, and we’re complicit in war crimes,” said Jenny Heinz, a Jewish senior citizen wearing a keffiyah. “My parents escaped from [Nazi] Germany. ‘Never again’ was always understood by me to mean never again for anyone.”

    Zellner, who said she organized for civil rights in the 1960s, feels compelled to by Jewish values to protest the Gaza operation.

    “Speaking as a Jew, this is a shonde. We’re driven by our tradition that says, ‘you shall not stand idly by,’ and we won’t stand idly by,” she said. “I was shot at and arrested for principles of equal rights. I want a state where Israelis and Palestinians are safe [with] equal rights for all.”

    Israel says the Gaza operation is necessary to address dangerous rocket fire from Gaza militants, which threatens the lives of innocent Israeli civilians. But protesters asked about this justification brushed it aside. “We don’t buy it,” Zellner said. “This is blaming the victim to the extreme.”

    Protest organizers specifically called for an end to U.S. support for Israel’s military operation and its occupation more generally.

    “It’s a shame that our Congress, our media, and — as a Jew — our U.S. Jewish institutions are largely silent, if not supportive [of the operation],” said Brandon Davis, a 23-year-old volunteer with Jewish Voices for Peace. “We’re hoping to change the political discourse that is shamefully and uniformly pro-Israel.”

    While being interviewed, a pro-Israel passerby began arguing with Davis and called him “a self-hating Jew.” Only a handful of Israel supporters showed up to counter-protest, however.

    Misha Shulman, a 37-year-old Israeli immigrant, had an unplanned protest of his own. The former IDF soldier strongly opposes Israel’s Gaza operation and joined the march against it. He said he is “pretty horrified” by the war and the number of Palestinian civilians being killed.

    But after a few minutes of marching, he no longer felt comfortable. “They’re calling [the operation] a genocide,” he said, and noted that the marchers also shouted slogans in favor of boycotting Israel. “It’s essentially an anti-Israel protest, and I’m not anti-Israel in general, I just oppose most of the government’s policies.”

    After glimpsing a sign that read “Israel=KKK,” Shulman had had enough; he departed the line of marchers and sat down on a park bench.

    “At Israeli protests, we chant “Jews and Arabs refuse to be enemies,” he said. “I hoped that I would find my part of the demonstration [where] that’s the general sentiment.”
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    Re: Israeli Palestininian conflict

    Wonder if [MENTION=1871]Solomon2[/MENTION] was at the demo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabeel View Post
    Wonder if [MENTION=1871]Solomon2[/MENTION] was at the demo
    Maybe as a saboteur or agent provocateur.

    Meanwhile, coverage in the New York Times:

    NY Times reports source of UNRWA school attack is unclear even though Israel said they did it
    http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/report...ar-israel.html

    Dmitry has a point:

    All of western media is now about as good as Pravda was back in the Soviet days—good for wiping your ass with, that is.
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    Re: The children of Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by alihamza View Post
    I don't understand how Israel could claim they are targeting terrorists or killing them, when they are quite clearly killing little children. Made my heart sick watching those scenes.
    Children and women have suffered astonishing losses. In return Israel has lost a lot of staunch supporters they have always banked on.
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    Re: The children of Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Superkaif View Post
    Children and women have suffered astonishing losses. In return Israel has lost a lot of staunch supporters they have always banked on.
    This is why i dont like arabs,450 million of them,yet they dont care for their own,these idiots in their palaces could do so much.
    Where are the so called superpowers,Russia and China?
    The world will have to do something for Palestine,fast.
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