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    PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    I used to post on a site called *********** Pakistan Defence Forum), but unfortunately that site has a large number of Indians, who troll threads by posting anti Pakistan and Islam posts. They don't even get banned for it, and even if they do, the ban is temporary and they eventually come back. It is hard to have any functional thread there because of the Indians.

    I hope this site does not go downhill the same path and keep such Indians from destroying sites, with an iron hand. This is my suggestion.


    Also it looks like, anyone who bashes Islam and Pakistan a bit there gets promoted to be a think tank or something.
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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    different people have different tolerance levels to controversies.
    its easy to pat back and thank each other posts on easy and delightful subjects like good weather, feel good happy new year and all
    but the real thing is how we as human conduct ourselves to more sensitive and controversial issues that are political, religious and social in nature.

    if you feel strongly about something you must speak up and suggest alternative and say why you think it should be different. just stating your opposition is not enough. regarding dealing with offensive posts and posters, the sites are not run on Military code of conduct if you start acting like Afghan taliban in the Kabul football stadium then you dont last for long unfortunately.
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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    Welcome [MENTION=5088]Rain[/MENTION]. You will find that there are many that agree with you. But I wouldn't say it's just Indians its a certain type of person who revels in taunting others. you will find much more adult like behaviour on this forum

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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wajid47 View Post
    Welcome [MENTION=5088]Rain[/MENTION]. You will find that there are many that agree with you.
    That is great to know ^_^

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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Irfan Baloch View Post
    different people have different tolerance levels to controversies.
    its easy to pat back and thank each other posts on easy and delightful subjects like good weather, feel good happy new year and all
    but the real thing is how we as human conduct ourselves to more sensitive and controversial issues that are political, religious and social in nature.

    if you feel strongly about something you must speak up and suggest alternative and say why you think it should be different. just stating your opposition is not enough. regarding dealing with offensive posts and posters, the sites are not run on Military code of conduct if you start acting like Afghan taliban in the Kabul football stadium then you dont last for long unfortunately.
    Difference of opinion doesn't work there...Its their way or highway. People are free to call you Taliban and terrorist if you speak up in favour of some of the basic beliefs and practices of Islam,and you simply cant speak against certain "Holier than thou" nationalities in that place.

    Pekiz and Muzlimz come way down the list..in the gutter list.
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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    Btw,can we move this thread to shrink's couch?

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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rain View Post
    I used to post on a site called *********** Pakistan Defence Forum), but unfortunately that site has a large number of Indians, who troll threads by posting anti Pakistan and Islam posts. They don't even get banned for it, and even if they do, the ban is temporary and they eventually come back. It is hard to have any functional thread there because of the Indians.

    I hope this site does not go downhill the same path and keep such Indians from destroying sites, with an iron hand. This is my suggestion.


    Also it looks like, anyone who bashes Islam and Pakistan a bit there gets promoted to be a think tank or something.
    Different atmosphere and Different forum. That crap will not be tolerated her. You will experience this here yourself dear.
    Welcome to check out for yourself
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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rain View Post
    I used to post on a site called *********** Pakistan Defence Forum), but unfortunately that site has a large number of Indians, who troll threads by posting anti Pakistan and Islam posts. They don't even get banned for it, and even if they do, the ban is temporary and they eventually come back. It is hard to have any functional thread there because of the Indians.

    I hope this site does not go downhill the same path and keep such Indians from destroying sites, with an iron hand. This is my suggestion.


    Also it looks like, anyone who bashes Islam and Pakistan a bit there gets promoted to be a think tank or something.
    I don't think there is a comparison. The same bashing and abuse simply doesn't happen here and its not tolerated. Welcome home!!
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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by safriz View Post
    Btw,can we move this thread to shrink's couch?
    Moved to it
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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    i love this forum just as i love the pakistan defence forum i guess some pakistani love to hate me here just as they love to hate me there
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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Irfan Baloch View Post
    different people have different tolerance levels to controversies.
    its easy to pat back and thank each other posts on easy and delightful subjects like good weather, feel good happy new year and all
    but the real thing is how we as human conduct ourselves to more sensitive and controversial issues that are political, religious and social in nature.

    if you feel strongly about something you must speak up and suggest alternative and say why you think it should be different. just stating your opposition is not enough. regarding dealing with offensive posts and posters, the sites are not run on Military code of conduct if you start acting like Afghan taliban in the Kabul football stadium then you dont last for long unfortunately.
    Stop the "Swiss talk". You of all people should completely understand what the OP is saying. Stop pretending they have a "voice of reason" when they don't. That forum is full of hatred and sarcastic bitching about Pakistan and Islam. Deal with it.
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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    The main difference I've noted is that on PDF, you get freedom of speech to trash Pakistan. And no freedom of Speech to trash anyone.

    Either everyone should be fair game (Would make a horrible, horrible forum like any Indian Defence/Cricket Forum) or no one is.
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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rain View Post
    I used to post on a site called *********** Pakistan Defence Forum), but unfortunately that site has a large number of Indians, who troll threads by posting anti Pakistan and Islam posts. They don't even get banned for it, and even if they do, the ban is temporary and they eventually come back. It is hard to have any functional thread there because of the Indians.

    I hope this site does not go downhill the same path and keep such Indians from destroying sites, with an iron hand. This is my suggestion.


    Also it looks like, anyone who bashes Islam and Pakistan a bit there gets promoted to be a think tank or something.
    I was on that forum. There wasn't a day which would go by that wouldn't be insulting to Pakistan citizens. Eventually it gets too much and frankly unbearable. Nothing can be debated in a proper manner as there is simply too much hatred. I find this is a place I can share opinions without the trash talk.
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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    Welcome [MENTION=5088]Rain[/MENTION]
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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by truthseer View Post
    The main difference I've noted is that on PDF, you get freedom of speech to trash Pakistan. And no freedom of Speech to trash anyone.

    Either everyone should be fair game (Would make a horrible, horrible forum like any Indian Defence/Cricket Forum) or no one is.
    well said very true. But he finds many who are prepared to go there and make it still look as if its a pakistani forum. But then Pakistanis have a track record of supporting thieves even in the government for their own often petty selfish reasons

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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by truthseer View Post
    The main difference I've noted is that on PDF, you get freedom of speech to trash Pakistan. And no freedom of Speech to trash anyone.

    Either everyone should be fair game (Would make a horrible, horrible forum like any Indian Defence/Cricket Forum) or no one is.
    exactly.
    you can trash Pakistan and Rubbish Islam all you want,but cant say anything about other faiths and other nationalities.
    Theirs is a forum to demote Pakistan and send Pakistanis to the dog house.No wonder other nationalities are in larger number and more active over there than Pakistanis.
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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by safriz View Post
    exactly.
    you can trash Pakistan and Rubbish Islam all you want,but cant say anything about other faiths and other nationalities.
    Theirs is a forum to demote Pakistan and send Pakistanis to the dog house.No wonder other nationalities are in larger number and more active over there than Pakistanis.
    A Pakistani forum where Pakistani are a minority. What a complete farce?
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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by manuu View Post
    A Pakistani forum where Pakistani are a minority. What a complete farce?
    No they have only 32% traffic from Pakistan.The rest of the traffic is from Abroad,and India is major stake holder with 38% traffic of their total.
    Check here.
    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/***********
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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    While this forum has 60% traffic from Pakistan despite most of us being Non resident Pakistanis.
    Agno,Aryan,Super,Myself and many others who contribute here are British and American Pakistanis,but our hearts are with Pakistan,and try our best to remain Pakistan specific.
    Unlike them who are only after adsense.
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    Re: PDF went down hill. Don't be like it.

    pdf has fast become a pit of hatred for Pakistanis. Amazing at what some Pakistanis do for $. No difference from Zardari and him.

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