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    Re: Communal riots erupt in Gujarat; 40 arrested

    Communal and sectarian violance is strongest in Gujarat and Uttar Pradesh. Dangerous places to be.
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    Re: Communal riots erupt in Gujarat; 40 arrested

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    Communal and sectarian violance is strongest in Gujarat and Uttar Pradesh. Dangerous places to be.
    Even more dangerous with Modi around.
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    India police arrest over 200 for religious violence in Gujarat



    NEW DELHI: Indian police in Prime Minister Narendra Modi's home state of Gujarat have arrested more than 200 people after violence between majority Hindus and minority Muslims, a senior officer said Monday.

    The clashes in the western city of Vadodara were sparked by a distorted image posted on social media that offended Muslims, prompting authorities to block mobile Internet and bulk text messaging, the officer said.

    The violence coincides with Modi's visit to the United States where he is expected to meet President Barack Obama during a trip to push for foreign investment to promote economic growth.

    Members of the two communities threw stones at each other and set vehicles alight in several days of clashes that started on Thursday, while one person was stabbed.

    “We have now arrested over 200 people from both the communities in the last three days,” said D.J Patel, additional commissioner of Vadodara police. Police said Sunday 40 arrests were made.

    “The man, a teacher, who posted the controversial message on WhatsApp has also been arrested,” Patel told AFP.

    Patel declined to describe the offending message and image but local newspapers have reported that a distorted photo of the Muslim holy land of Mecca was circulated on social media.

    Modi contested and won Vadodara when his Hindu nationalist party swept to power at the general election in May, although he gave up the seat after the polls for another that he also secured.

    Gujarat was hit by religious riots in 2002 that left more than 1,000 people, mostly Muslims, dead. Modi, the state's chief minister at the time, has rejected criticism he failed to stop the bloodshed. He was cleared by a Supreme Court-ordered probe of wrongdoing.

    The US had shunned Modi for years over the riots, a move that was dropped when it became clear he would win power nationally.

    Patel said some of the 200 people were detained for taking part in the low-level violence, while others were arrested to prevent further unrest.

    He said the city was back to normal on Monday with markets open. Another senior police officer said mobile Internet services would remain suspended as a precaution until Tuesday.

    One person was stabbed in the unrest, the Press Trust of India news agency has reported, but all of the handful of injuries have been minor.

    http://www.dawn.com/news/1135103/ind...nce-in-gujarat

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    Re: Communal riots erupt in Gujarat; 40 arrested

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    India police arrest over 200 for religious violence in Gujarat



    NEW DELHI: Indian police in Prime Minister Narendra Modi's home state of Gujarat have arrested more than 200 people after violence between majority Hindus and minority Muslims, a senior officer said Monday.

    The clashes in the western city of Vadodara were sparked by a distorted image posted on social media that offended Muslims, prompting authorities to block mobile Internet and bulk text messaging, the officer said.

    The violence coincides with Modi's visit to the United States where he is expected to meet President Barack Obama during a trip to push for foreign investment to promote economic growth.

    Members of the two communities threw stones at each other and set vehicles alight in several days of clashes that started on Thursday, while one person was stabbed.

    “We have now arrested over 200 people from both the communities in the last three days,” said D.J Patel, additional commissioner of Vadodara police. Police said Sunday 40 arrests were made.

    “The man, a teacher, who posted the controversial message on WhatsApp has also been arrested,” Patel told AFP.

    Patel declined to describe the offending message and image but local newspapers have reported that a distorted photo of the Muslim holy land of Mecca was circulated on social media.

    Modi contested and won Vadodara when his Hindu nationalist party swept to power at the general election in May, although he gave up the seat after the polls for another that he also secured.

    Gujarat was hit by religious riots in 2002 that left more than 1,000 people, mostly Muslims, dead. Modi, the state's chief minister at the time, has rejected criticism he failed to stop the bloodshed. He was cleared by a Supreme Court-ordered probe of wrongdoing.

    The US had shunned Modi for years over the riots, a move that was dropped when it became clear he would win power nationally.

    Patel said some of the 200 people were detained for taking part in the low-level violence, while others were arrested to prevent further unrest.

    He said the city was back to normal on Monday with markets open. Another senior police officer said mobile Internet services would remain suspended as a precaution until Tuesday.

    One person was stabbed in the unrest, the Press Trust of India news agency has reported, but all of the handful of injuries have been minor.

    http://www.dawn.com/news/1135103/ind...nce-in-gujarat
    Muslims run for your lives. There is a Modi about

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    Apparently, the Army had to be called in to stop the riots.

    I wonder why "justice" in Gujarat is so one-sided, it seems like Muslims are the only ones that can be at fault. I would love to see Modi take action against Hindu extremists, but that will never happen, because he is one of them. It is a disgrace that India elected him as PM.

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    Re: Communal riots erupt in Gujarat; 40 arrested

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    Even more dangerous with Modi around.
    Yes, they are saying that Hindu extremists have been emboldened in Gujarat ever since Modi got brought into power, they will get further protection from his government no matter how much violence they commit against Gujarati Muslims.

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    Re: Communal riots erupt in Gujarat; 40 arrested

    The uncomfortable atmosphere in villages round Ahmedabad is noted. Restless times ahead i hear. Lets hope for peace and common sense prevailing.

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    Modi's Baggage: Obama Meets India's New Prime Minister

    Ceremony and cliché will abound as India's prime minister, Narendra Modi, visits Washington on September 29-30 to meet with President Barack Obama at the White House. There will be photo ops, gifts, and recitations about the leader of the world's largest democracy sitting with the leader of the world's oldest. But substantive matters are also to be discussed: Business. Weapons deals. Counterterrorism. Human rights and regional security issues will also be on the table.

    There is a lot to talk about. In the broader South Asia context, the United States and India are powerhouses, with extraordinary influence over the political and human rights situations in the region. And their influence is at its apex when the two countries work together. The United States needs India's help even on matters in Afghanistan, and in securing broad support for UN action in places like Syria and North Korea.

    But there will also be an opportunity for dialogue on each country's own human rights record. India, while welcoming warmer ties, could raise concerns about US practices with National Security Agency surveillance, or policies in Pakistan. Modi may also express concern about US trade policies--for instance efforts to extend pharmaceutical patent protections that would be at the expense of medical systems like India's that depend on cheaper generic alternatives.

    Obama, for his part, can welcome recent comments by Modi condemning sexual violence, promoting education, and health. But he could also raise concerns about shrinking space for freedom of expression and association in India. In a recent address during the opening week of the UN General Assembly, Obama described how civil society worldwide is under attack, mentioning cases in places such as Egypt and China. What he didn't say is that these problems also exist in India, where government actors are increasingly harassing advocates, like environmental groups opposing development projects that could adversely impact communities. The trend started under the previous Manmohan Singh government, but has continued under the new one.

    The United States should also articulate its anxieties about the potential for communal violence in India. President Obama cannot ignore this issue, since an enormous atrocity is hanging over the visit: the extensive communal violence in Gujarat in 2002, when Prime Minister Modi was chief minister of the state. What happened in Gujarat was horrific. Hindu mobs--in some cases with the acquiescence of police--killed well over 1,000 Muslims in a matter of days, destroyed thousands of businesses and homes, and displaced tens of thousands.

    Human Rights Watch found extensive evidence of complicity by government officials through both acts and omissions. Modi's government in Gujarat never investigated or prosecuted alleged human rights violations. It was only through intervention by India's National Human Rights Commission, the Supreme Court, and local activists and victim groups that charges were filed; and prosecutors were able eventually to secure convictions for over 100 people, including a member of Modi's cabinet. Trials are proceeding in several other cases.

    A Supreme Court-ordered investigation decided in 2012 that there was not enough evidence to prove Modi's direct complicity. However, some of the victims still have appeal cases pending, seeking to reopen the inquiry. And even if one gives Modi generous benefit of the doubt, he still faces serious questions about poor leadership during the events. The US banned Modi from travelling to the US as a result of the allegations against him, and only reversed the decision last year, when it became clear that he would become prime minister.

    Some argue that discussing the Gujarat riots with Modi is diplomatically untenable. But Obama could express anxieties about the potentials for communal violence, especially as many Hindu nationalist supporters of Modi's party continue to embrace visions of hate and discrimination that led to the 2002 riots and ensuing violence. Some of Modi's supporters still make provocative assertions about Indian Muslim involvement in terrorism, and have made outlandish claims about Muslim plots to target Hindu girls in India for religious conversion--caustic speech that is creating a sense of insecurity among India's Muslims and other minorities.

    Obama should raise these concerns with Modi, and urge him to ensure that his party's victory does not generate Hindu triumphalism that sparks communal tensions. It is possible to speak about these matters diplomatically. Obama can point out that US history has its share of extremists who have used hate speech at the expense of vulnerable populations. He can note that the responsibility of any good leader is to ensure that such extremists do not feel emboldened to challenge the rule of law and turn their speech into violence. That is a message Prime Minister Modi needs to hear.

    http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/09/29/m...prime-minister

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    Dear PM, Save Our Colleges From Communal Agendas

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    Dear PM, Save Our Colleges From Communal Agendas


    (Rana Ayyub is an award-winning investigative journalist and political writer. She is working on a book on Prime Minister Narendra Modi which will be published in 2015.)

    My father, a noted writer from the field of Urdu literature, like many of his friends from the Progressive writers movement, found in his alma mater Aligarh Muslim University, the courage to break the barriers of religion enforced stereotypes. He forced his wife, my mother, who was raised in a conservative family of zamindars from Uttar Pradesh to pursue her education post marriage and give up all ominous practices of subjugation.

    Among the first few books my mother was gifted besides Maxim Gorky's 'Mother' were on Sir Syed Ahmed Khan, the founder of AMU, and Sultan Shahjahan Begum, the first female ruler who vehemently worked for the promotion of education amongst women and Muslims in particular.

    Shahjahan Begum, also referred to as the Begum of Bhopal, was the first Vice-Chancellor of the Aligarh Muslim University which gave India some of its best known luminaries from the field of politics, art, literature. AMU alumni include former Presidents of India and current Vice President Hamid Ansari, who also served a term as the Vice Chancellor of the university.

    Some of the most prolific writers and thinkers with affiliation to the Marxist philosophy owe their careers to AMU. One such figure was Raja Mahendra Pratap, an admirer of Sir Syed Ahmed Khan, who started the Mohammad Anglo Oriental College after successfully completing his education from Oxford and Cambridge.

    With the dominance of religious education in the lives of Muslims, who were in the lowest rung of socio-economic progress, Sir Syed understood that religious studies from Madrassas did not give the less privileged a window into the world; for them to succeed, there was a dire need for a platform which helped them with a contemporary understanding of religion, philosophy and science.

    While the University was started with the intent of providing modern education to Muslims, non-Muslims were welcomed. It was for this reason that many Hindu rulers of the time sent their children to the Mohammedan Anglo Oriental College spread over 468 hectares of land which was later renamed the Aligarh Muslim University.

    So impressed was Raja Mahendra Pratap with the vision of Sir Syed that he decided to lease 3.04 acres of land to the AMU in 1929. Though it was a small share, this helped forge a strong bond between Hindus and Muslims. His commitment to the social cause and his zeal for the Marxist thought was such that Lenin himself is said to have invited him to Russia post the success of the Bolshevik revolution.

    An independent MP from Mathura from the year 1955 to 1962, and a freedom fighter with a desire to weed out communal thinking, Mahendra Pratap despised all form of right-wing indoctrination. Little did he realize that one day his name would be used by right-wing leaders to turn an educational institute he so admired into a ground for religious polarisation.

    Satish Gautam, BJP MP from Aligarh, whose party has professed commitment to ushering in a new era of development and inclusive growth, has decided to use AMU to instigate communal politics between Jats and Muslims, both communities being the main constituents of Aligarh.

    Satish Gautam, a popular figure amongst Jats, possibly realises that the last time the two communities were provoked in Muzaffarnagar, it earned rich political dividends for his party. But in his overzealous endeavour to use AMU, he has conveniently forgotten to state some very important facts to his followers.

    It would be judicious on the part of Satish Gautam, who has threatened to hold a rally at the gates of the AMU on the birth anniversary of Raja Mahendra Pratap on the 1st of December to list for his followers some of the most revolutionary non-Muslim thinkers from AMU. Before and during the freedom movement, both Muslim and Hindu kings and rulers united against the British and helped each other - these included funding educational institutions. AMU and the famous Banaras Hindu university were the two icons of this educational uprising that received patronage from both the communities.

    Pandit Madan Mohan Malviya, the founder of the Banaras Hindu University, had no qualms about accepting funds from Muslim rulers and elites.

    If one were to accept the BJP MP's logic, then each and every person who leased land for the 468 hectares of AMU will have to be celebrated just like each and every donor of BHU and thousands of other educational institutes in India.

    Would the BJP MP not do a great service to the iconic institution by asking it to celebrate the birth anniversary of social reformer Raja Ram Mohan Roy, who was one of the main influences on Sir Syed Ahmed Khan, or guide the non-Muslim students of Aligarh to the plaque of historian Ishwar Prasad, who belonged to the first batch of graduates from the AMU?

    The Vice Chancellor of the Aligarh Muslim University has written to the Education Minister Smriti Irani stating that the BJP's decision to hold a rally would provoke communal tension; he has said the university is willing to diffuse the tension by holding a seminar on Raja Mahendra in the future. Smriti Irani displayed her feminist side by speaking out against the VC's alleged decision to not allow female undergraduate students into the Central library - she called it an
    "insult to the daughters of the country."

    Now she should take the first step in saving the legacy of the likes of Sir Syed Ahmed Khan and Pandit Madan Mohan Malviya by weeding out the rogue elements who threaten to target educational institutions.

    In the last few months, there seems to have been a meticulous plan to target educational bodies by fringe elements by planting fictitious stories and dividing them on religious lines. On this particular occasion, it would be wise for the powers that be to not allow local Samajwadi Party and BJP leaders to target the sacrosanct for a communal or political agenda. Both the HRD Minister and the Prime Minister, who has held education as one of the key areas of development in his agenda, should step forward to save the legacy of the great reformists from being converted into a communal experiment.

    Disclaimer: The opinions expressed within this article are the personal opinions of the author. NDTV is not responsible for the accuracy, completeness, suitability, or validity of any information on this article. All information is provided on an as-is basis. The information, facts or opinions appearing in the article do not reflect the views of NDTV and NDTV does not assume any responsibility or liability for the same.

    Story First Published: November 29, 2014 15:11 IST

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