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    Quote Originally Posted by Razamustafa76 View Post
    Why Russian arms, submarines, fighter jets, very low quality
    I thought it was an Indigenous Indian Sub ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hafiz View Post
    I thought it was an Indigenous Indian Sub ?
    Nope it was not

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    Safety mechanisms on INS Sindhurakshak failed, admits Navy chief

    Mumbai: One of Indian Navy's most advanced non-nuclear submarines, INS Sindhurakshak, exploded and sank on Wednesday in Mumbai. Three officers and 15 sailors on board are feared dead in what is being described as Navy's worst disaster in over three decades.

    Navy chief Admiral DK Joshi admitted that safety mechanisms did not work on the fully-armed submarine, which is now resting its nose on the seabed eight metres down. The investigation into what triggered the explosions could take four weeks.
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    1. INS Sindhurakshak exploded and caught fire after midnight on Wednesday, hours before its operational deployment. There were three explosions, which led to a fire.

    2. "Quite obviously the safety mechanisms have not functioned," admitted the Navy Chief. The 16-year-old submarine was reportedly carrying heavyweight torpedoes and "Klub" anti-shipping and land attack missiles.

    3. Grainy amateur video footage taken by a witness showed a fireball in the forward section of the Russian-made vessel, the place for weapons and battery units.

    4. Today's disaster will have a big impact on the underwater combat capabilities of the Indian navy, which has an already depleted strength of 14 submarines though it needs 30.

    5. The Sindhurakshak was handed over to India earlier this year after nearly two years of overhaul and refitting in Russia at the cost of 80 million dollars or 480 crore rupees. It was expected to serve the navy for at least 10 more years.

    6. The vessel had been sent to Russia for a mid-life upgrade in 2010, months after a fire on board while it was docked in Visakhapatnam, Andhra Pradesh. A 24-year-old sailor was killed in the fire.

    7. A spokesman for the Russian company which overhauled the vessel said that India raised no objections when it was returned after testing in April. The submarine is still covered by a Russian warranty.

    8. INS Sindhurakshak was built in 1997 at Saint Petersburg, for anti-submarine and anti-ship warfare, defending naval bases, securing coasts and sea lanes of communication, reconnaissance and maritime patrol operations.

    9. The accident is set to overshadow scheduled talks between Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Russian President Vladimir Putin at a G20 summit in St. Petersburg in September.

    10. Russia is still the biggest military supplier to India, but relations have been strained recently by major delays and cost over-runs with a refurbished aircraft carrier, the INS Vikramaditya.
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    Re: Indian submarine catches fire, sinks

    A sad loss of life. REUTERS reporting those on board highly unlikely to have survived

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    INS Sindhurakshak tragedy: Bodies of three navy men recovered

    MUMBAI/NEW DELHI: Naval divers on Friday found bodies of three naval personnel from ill-fated submarine INS Sindhurakshak which exploded and sank at the Mumbai dockyard early on Wednesday.

    "Three bodies have been recovered from the submarine by our divers but their identity has not yet been ascertained," Navy sources said.

    There were 18 personnel, including three officers, who had got trapped inside the 2,300 tonne Russian-made submarine and all are feared dead.

    The Navy had on Thursday released the names of the three officers and 15 sailors who were in the 16-year-old warship.

    The three officers are Lieutenant Commanders Nikhilesh Pal, Alok Kumar and R Venkitaraj.

    The sailors stuck inside the Kilo class vessel are Sanjeev Kumar, KC Upadhya, Timothy Sinha, Kewal Singh, Sunil Kumar Dasari Prasad, Liju Lawrence, Rajesh Tootika, Amit K Singh, Atul Sharma, Vikas E Naruttam Deuri, Malay Haldar, Vishnu V and Seetaram Badapalli.

    The diving efforts have been hampered by poor visibility inside the submarine which is filled with water, extremely restricted access and displacement of most equipment from their original location.

    The Navy is also planning to seek help from a Dutch company to salvage the sunken warship.

    In one of the worst disasters to have struck the Navy, a series of explosions rocked INS Sindhurakshak at the Mumbai dockyard sinking it partially in the shallow sea.

    "We are deeply pained that we lost the submarine, INS Sindurakshak in an accident yesterday. Eighteen brave sailors are feared to have lost their lives," Prime Minister Manmohan Singh had said on Thursday.

    "The accident is all the more painful because the Navy had recently achieved two major successes in the form of its first nuclear submarine, INS Arihant and the aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant," he had said in his Independence Day speech.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i.../21855024.cms?

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    Rip...................

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    RIP and condolences for the families of lost ones.

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    INS Sindhurakshak: Navy sticks to ‘accident’ story behind submarine disaster

    NEW DELHI: Preliminary assessments show "a plain and simple accident" in the "fully-loaded" weapons compartment of INS Sindhurakshak, which caused "sympathetic detonation" of some missile and torpedo warheads, probably led to the sinking of the Kilo-class submarine in Mumbai on Wednesday.

    Though holding that the board of inquiry (BoI) headed by senior submariner Commodore Deepak Bhist will pinpoint the reason, top naval sources on Friday virtually ruled out hydrogen gas leakage, "a major material failure", or sabotage being responsible for the disaster.

    This then leaves "mishandling of ammunition" as the most plausible reason for the massive explosions that even "ejected" a Klub-S cruise missile out of the vessel. Asked about this, the sources said even if "mishandling" was the case, it was "more of an accident" rather than "lack of training or expertise".

    "Something could have slipped from someone's hand ... a device could have malfunctioned. We don't know yet since the mangled submarine is still underwater. But the 18 on board were highly-experienced, including three officers and three `underwater weapons specialist' petty officers (junior commissioned officers)," said a source.

    INS Sindhurakshak, with a full complement of 18 missiles and torpedoes, was set to sail on "a long deployment patrol" early on Wednesday morning. The submarine's second-in-command or executive officer Lt-Commander Nikhilesh Pal, a bachelor, was on board for the final "prepare sub for sea" when something went drastically wrong.

    "The torpedo air flask, which contains compressed pure oxygen, could have exploded due to something even if the exploder mechanism had not been inserted into it. Sympathetic detonation would have followed since the missiles and torpedoes are stacked together in the six tubes and the 12 racks behind them," said the source.

    Rejecting hydrogen gas leakage as a "dim possibility", the sources said the 240 lead acid batteries, each weighing around 800kg, on the submarine were "brand new" after its over two-year $156 million refit in Russia.

    " Old batteries emit more hydrogen. The maximum amount of hydrogen is emitted while batteries are being charged ... the process had been finished in INS Sindhurakshak over two days before the mishap. Moreover, Hydrogen levels are continuously monitored by duty-watch sailors," he said.

    Similarly, the possibility of "a major material failure" is being discounted since the submarine had undergone extensive sea-trials, checks and certification processes after its refit. "INS Sindhurakshak had already finished 1,000 dived hours after the refit. If there was a defect, it would have been detected and rectified during the operations as well as the regular `turning of arms' drills during everything is powered on," he added.

    Sabotage also looks "highly-unlikely" because it would require "a long chain of conspirators and insiders" who could get access to the submarine guarded round-the-clock while it was berthed in harbour. "Nothing, of course, can be completely ruled out till the forensic examination of the submarine and the exact sequence of events established during the BoI," he said.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/21871022.cms

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    INS Sindhurakshak tragedy: 6th body found, international firms help in rescue operation

    MUMBAI: Navy divers continued efforts to open the forward escape hatch on INS Sindhurakshak, for a third point of entry into the damaged submarine, even as sources said a sixth body was found on Saturday.

    While efforts were on to recover the bodies of other sailors, all of whom are feared dead, salvage firms from countries like Norway and Singapore started assessing the mangled submarine. On Saturday, representatives of the firms visited the naval dockyard at Lions Gate and interacted with senior naval officials. Engineering major Larsen and Toubro is also learnt to have voiced interest. "The Indian Navy does not have the capability to salvage the submarine and very few firms have such expertise. Once these firms assess the situation, we will call in bids. It is not possible to give a deadline for salvage operations to get over," said a Navy spokesperson.

    Late on Saturday, divers reportedly found the body of a sailor, the sixth to be retrieved so far. The body has been sent to JJ Hospital for DNA analysis and post-mortem.

    On Friday, divers prised open the rear escape hatch which was submerged under water and jammed due to high temperatures. "Opening of the jammed forward escape hatch is also being attempted for an entry to the front portion of the submarine," said the Navy in a statement. "Due to zero visibility within the flooded compartments, divers are searching the submarine interiors by feeling each inch and also marking a probable route to be used for further rescue operations," the spokesperson said. Sources said the water around the submarine was still hot.

    Salvage operations are quite time consuming and heavy equipment will be required to lift the 2,500-tonne submarine. Norwegian firms took over eight years to salvage the Russian submarine Kursk which sank to the bottom of the seabed in 2000 following an explosion which killed 118 sailors.

    The Navy denied that it kept relatives of the sailors in the dark on the search activities. "We are keeping the relatives informed regularly and have also formed special family support teams of naval officers, sailors and members of the Navy Wives Welfare Association," the spokesperson said.

    While the five-member board of inquiry under senior submariner Commodore Deepak Bhist has started investigations, sketchy details of the accident have emerged from the three survivors of INS Sindhurakshak. The submarine was scheduled to leave for a patrol on August 14 and the 18 sailors, including the three survivors, were pre-occupied with last-minute checks. Sources said all the six compartments, besides the front and rear escape hatches, were open to facilitate loading of food and other materials inside the submarine.

    The survivors are learnt to have told senior Navy officers that loading of ordnance was almost over. The three were standing on the submarine and jetty when they heard the first torpedo explode. "They turned around to investigate the source of the blast when the second torpedo exploded. One of them got thrown into the water while the other two jumped into the sea," said a source.

    The trio escaped with burns and was discharged after treatment. A Navy spokesperson said all the three survivors have since rejoined duty at the Naval dockyard.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/21887848.cms

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    Re: Indian submarine catches fire, sinks

    It is sunk in shallow waters?
    Why not build a sandbag dam around the submarine and pump out water?
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    Sailors of INS Sindhurakshak broke safety rules: Russia

    New Delhi: Violation of safety regulations could be the most likely cause of the explosions on submarine Sindhurakshak because of which it sank, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin has said.

    Sixth body recovered from submarine INS Sindhurakshak

    Rogozin, who was quoted by Russia’s official news agency Itar Tass, has said that India had raised no questions over the technical aspects of the submarine built and recently overhauled by Russia.

    Quoting experts, he told that the violation of safety regulations was the most probable cause of the accident. He, however, qualified his comments, saying that assessment of what really happened are still being made to determine the exact reason behind the tragedy in which 18 Navy officials are feared dead. “But things are still to be assessed in full... At the moment we are not blaming the equipment,” Rogozin said.

    “The very first information that I received at night, several hours after that accident was that the blast had occurred in the section where storage batteries were being charged. This is the most dangerous work, which is connected with safety measures rather than with the producers of this equipment,” he said.

    He said the submarine itself, which had covered 15,000 nautical miles, did not attract criticism as to its technical characteristics. “It (the submarine) has never raised any questions on the part of our Indian colleagues,” he added.

    INS Sindhurakshak: blood samples of relatives being collected

    Meanwhile, divers from the Navy managed to open a second access to the sunken vessel on Friday during an overnight ‘challenging but critical’ operation.

    “The divers have gained a second access to the submarine late last night when they successfully prised open the rear escape hatch which was submerged below and jammed due to high temperature,” a release from the Navy said, terming the operation as “challenging but critical.”

    Also, opening of the jammed forward escape hatch is being attempted for an entry to the front portion of the submarine, the release said.

    The rescue team had extricated badly charred bodies of five of the 18 personnel on Friday.

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    How can they say this without knowing the facts? Of course Russia providing dud equipment couldn't be out of the question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amjad Hussain View Post
    How can they say this without knowing the facts? Of course Russia providing dud equipment couldn't be out of the question?
    Bodies of Indian sub found :
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-23721958

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hafiz View Post
    Why are you quoting me?

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    Why are you quoting me?
    mistake...... :-(

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    Sailors of INS Sindhurakshak broke safety rules: Russia

    New Delhi: Violation of safety regulations could be the most likely cause of the explosions on submarine Sindhurakshak because of which it sank, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin has said.

    Sixth body recovered from submarine INS Sindhurakshak

    Rogozin, who was quoted by Russia’s official news agency Itar Tass, has said that India had raised no questions over the technical aspects of the submarine built and recently overhauled by Russia.

    Quoting experts, he told that the violation of safety regulations was the most probable cause of the accident. He, however, qualified his comments, saying that assessment of what really happened are still being made to determine the exact reason behind the tragedy in which 18 Navy officials are feared dead. “But things are still to be assessed in full... At the moment we are not blaming the equipment,” Rogozin said.

    “The very first information that I received at night, several hours after that accident was that the blast had occurred in the section where storage batteries were being charged. This is the most dangerous work, which is connected with safety measures rather than with the producers of this equipment,” he said.

    He said the submarine itself, which had covered 15,000 nautical miles, did not attract criticism as to its technical characteristics. “It (the submarine) has never raised any questions on the part of our Indian colleagues,” he added.

    INS Sindhurakshak: blood samples of relatives being collected

    Meanwhile, divers from the Navy managed to open a second access to the sunken vessel on Friday during an overnight ‘challenging but critical’ operation.

    “The divers have gained a second access to the submarine late last night when they successfully prised open the rear escape hatch which was submerged below and jammed due to high temperature,” a release from the Navy said, terming the operation as “challenging but critical.”

    Also, opening of the jammed forward escape hatch is being attempted for an entry to the front portion of the submarine, the release said.

    The rescue team had extricated badly charred bodies of five of the 18 personnel on Friday.

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    Russia are jumping to conclusions here. Maybe wait for at least the enquiry to start before portioning the blame. Relations may be soured because of this?

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    Russian satellite launcher explodes in air in 2nd stage due to use of faulty chinese parts, then boilers of Gorshkov busted while going for full speed test.

    You cant deny faulty and below par quality of equipment used in overhaul and up gradation of INS sindhurakshak.

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    A prayer for the lost souls. Even if there is 1% chance lets pray some are found

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    INS Sindhurakshak tragedy: Russian experts suspect 'mishandling of equipment'
    TNN | Aug 19, 2013,

    MUMBAI: A team of Russian experts visiting Mumbai after the sinking of INS Sindhurakshak at the naval dockyard here has suggested that the tragedy might have been set off by "mishandling of equipment".

    According to sources, the team wrote off technical error or sabotage as the cause of the explosions that ripped through the 16-year-old Indian Navy submarine last week. "The experts raised the possibility of mishandling of equipment as the reason," said a source.

    The defence source explained that before a submarine sets out it is checked thoroughly — "also through computers" — to eliminate chances of technical faults. INS Sindhurakshak was reportedly scheduled to leave for a patrol on August 14 and 18 sailors including three officers were on board at the time of the tragedy.

    Two blasts tore through the vessel and started a blaze that ignited some weapons on board. This generated fierce temperatures that melted parts of the internal hull and deformed hatches.

    Six bodies have been retrieved so far from the submarine. Navy divers recovered the sixth body around the control room on Saturday despite zero visibility and mangled metal.

    The state of the bodies and conditions within the vessel have led the Navy to conclude that finding any surviving crew members is unlikely. The Navy has instituted a board of inquiry to probe the cause of the explosion and the ensuing fire.

    On Sunday, the Navy gained access into the Kilo-class vessel's forward compartment by breaking open jammed hatches.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...ntenttarget=no
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoKeMon View Post
    Russian satellite launcher explodes in air in 2nd stage due to use of faulty chinese parts, then boilers of Gorshkov busted while going for full speed test.

    You cant deny faulty and below par quality of equipment used in overhaul and up gradation of INS sindhurakshak.
    You are jumping to conclusions too soon,lets wait for the official inquiry.
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