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    INS Vikramaditya News and Discussion

    INS Vikramaditya trial malfunctions to delay handover to India
    IANS | Sep 17, 2012, :

    MOSCOW: Malfunctions detected during trials of Indian Navy aircraft carrier Vikramaditya will delay the vessel's handover to India, the Kommersant business daily reported on Monday.

    The Vikramaditya, formerly the Russian Navy's Admiral Gorshkov, is to be handed over to India after ongoing sea trials following a much-delayed refit. According to the latest agreements, it was to have been handed over Dec 4, but the deadline has been postponed again until October 2013.

    The problems started when the vessel tried to gain maximum speed.

    "Seven out of eight steam boilers of the propulsion machinery were out of order," an official told Kommersant.

    The official, who prepared the Vikramaditya for sea trials, said the reason for the boilers' failure was that India refused to use asbestos as a means to protect the boilers from heat, fearing that the material was dangerous for the crew.

    He said the boilers' designer had to use firebrick, which proved not sufficiently heatproof, the official said.

    INS Vikramaditya trial malfunctions to delay handover to India - The Times of India

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    bring some thing new these things are common now in indian defence industry. well Pakistanis are wise in these things they only mention when they know this thing is perfectly working

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    Russia to hand over INS Vikramaditya to India in November

    Russia will hand over the much-delayed INS Vikramaditya aircraft carrier to India in November, giving the country's navy a strategic advantage in the Indian Ocean region.

    The Vikramaditya aircraft carrier is to be handed over to the Indian Navy in November, 2013, head of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, Alexander Fomin, said yesterday.

    "The ship is to be put in a dock in April, go on sea trials in June and July and be officially handed over some time in November," he said.

    The Vikramaditya was originally built as the Soviet Project 1143.4 class aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov.

    The Vikramaditya, which is already years past its original 2008 delivery date, was supposed to have been handed over on December 4, 2012, but sea trials in September revealed the ship's boilers were not fully functional.

    The Vikramaditya then returned to the shipyard to fix the problems that were detected during the sea trials.

    The ship demonstrated excellent seaworthiness, speed of 27.9 knots (about 52 kilometres per hour) and manoeuvrability during the three-month sea trials.

    The ship sailed for more than 12,000 miles, with 517 flights performed from its deck by aircraft and helicopters.

    Russia's Northern Fleet aviation was involved in the sea trials, aircraft and helicopters flew around and over the ship in order to check its radar, air defence, communication and control systems.


    Under a package inter-governmental agreement signed in New Delhi in January 2004, the body of the Admiral Gorshkov was transferred to India for free, subject to its upgrading at Sevmash, a Russian shipbuilding company, and armament with Russian aircraft.

    Russia will also train the Indian crew of about 1,500 and create an infrastructure for the ship in the Indian Ocean.

    The overall cost of the contract was estimated at $1.5 billion, of which about 974 million were intended for the conversion of the ship into a full-scale aircraft carrier.

    The Admiral Gorshkov was built in Nikolayev under the name of Baku and put to service in the Northern Fleet in 1987.

    Russia to hand over INS Vikramaditya to India in November - Indian Express

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    Gorshkov: India okays use of asbestos for boiler insulation

    More than two months after the Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier suffered an embarrassing setback after its boilers malfunctioned during high speed trials in the Barents Sea, India has given a go ahead to the shipyard in charge of the project to use asbestos based insulation as part of the extensive repair package.

    The aircraft carrier, which was to be handed over to India this month after a series of delays, suffered yet another roadblock after the insulation on its boilers broke down while the warship was carrying out sea trials, causing damage to critical equipment.

    An analysis revealed that the fire-brick insulation that was used on the refurbished warship proved inadequate to handle the high temperatures and broke off. This lead to several media reports in Russia that blamed the Indian Navy for insisting on not using asbestos for insulation. Some reports even claimed that Chinese fire brick insulation was used, leading to a swift denial by Beijing.

    However, Navy Chief Admiral D K Joshi clarified on Monday that India was never against the use of asbestos-based insulation for the warship's boilers in the first place but that the decision was taken by the contractors who are refitting the old warship.

    "The insulation inside the boilers had become misplaced. Initially it (the insulation) had been kept asbestos free, which was a contractual stipulation. We had nothing to do with that decision. It was an internal decision of the supplier," Admiral Joshi said, adding that the Navy became aware of the asbestos issue only after the snag developed during the trials.

    The Navy has now decided to give the shipyard a go ahead after it proposed that the asbestos lining would be better. "We have concurred to their proposal that they want to go for asbestos based lining. This being a sealed unit, the environmental degradation factor externally is negligible. So we have concurred," the Navy Chief said.

    Speaking on the other major project of the Indian Navy, the Admiral said that 'good news' is expected soon on the Arihant indigenous nuclear missile submarine that is currently undergoing harbour trials in Visakhapatnam, hinting that the nuclear reactor of the boat would soon go critical.

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    INS Vikramaditya sets out for final sea trials



    Russia has sent out aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya for final sea trial in the White Sea before delivering it to India in early December.

    A mixed Russian-Indian crew is on board the warship.

    The Vikramaditya was originally built as the Soviet Project 1143.4 class aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov. The Admiral Gorshkov was built under the name of Baku and put to service in the Northern Fleet in 1987.

    The Vikramaditya, which is already years past its original 2008 delivery date, was supposed to have been handed over on December 4, 2012, but sea trials in September revealed the ship's boilers were not fully functional.

    The Vikramaditya then returned to the shipyard to fix the problems that were detected during the sea trials.





    The ship demonstrated excellent seaworthiness, speed of 27.9 knots (about 52 kilometres per hour) and manoeuvrability during the three-month sea trials.

    The ship sailed for more than 12,000 miles, with 517 flights performed from its deck by aircraft and helicopters.




    Russia's Northern Fleet aviation was involved in the sea trials, aircraft and helicopters flew around and over the ship in order to check its radar, air defence, communication and control systems.

    Under a package inter-governmental agreement signed in New Delhi in January 2004, the body of the Admiral Gorshkov was transferred to India for free, subject to its upgrading at Sevmash, a Russian shipbuilding company, and armament with Russian aircraft.



    Russia will also train the Indian crew of about 1,500 and create an infrastructure for the ship in the Indian Ocean.

    India has already started taking delivery of MiG-29K naval fighter aircraft for the Vikramaditya.



    The overall cost of the contract was estimated at $1.5 billion (around Rs 8,170 crore), of which about $974 million (Rs 5,305 crore) were intended for the conversion of the ship into a full-scale aircraft carrier.

    India is working on two more aircraft carriers, possibly of over 60,000 tonnes, and it will take some time to select the combat jet combination for them.



    Those two carriers should use slingshot propulsion by steam turbines rather than ski jumps, and of course, the standard three arrestor wires.

    That technology will possibly have to come from the US carriers, where slingshot takeoffs are routine. Naval teams area already in touch with manufacturers as part of the learning process, after which RfPs should appropriately be issued.
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    Re: INS Vikramaditya sets out for final sea trials

    Pride of India. Nice pictures brother.
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    Re: INS Vikramaditya sets out for final sea trials

    Hope this time it is inducted into service.
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    Re: INS Vikramaditya sets out for final sea trials

    they say better late than never
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    INS Vikramaditya sea trials successful

    INS Vikramaditya sea trials successful



    India’s second aircraft carrier, the 45,000-tonne INS Vikramaditya — a retrofitted Russian carrier formerly named Admiral Gorshkov dating back to the 1980s — has successfully completed sea trial of achieving top speed of 32 knots, reports received from Russia said on Sunday.

    It will now head for the White Sea where aviation trials will be conducted, informed sources said. INS Vikramaditya was supposed to have been delivered five years ago, but the Navy is likely to receive it by this year-end.

    The extensively modernised Soviet-era carrier had set sail from the Sevmash shipyard for its first comprehensive sea trials in the summer of 2012. Russian MiG-29K fighter pilots had successfully completed take-offs and landings on its deck. The crew tested the aircraft carrier for its top speed but it simply stopped at 30 knots. It turned out that the boilers needed better insulation, which had given way due to extreme temperatures. It took several months to fix the glitch and send the vessel for sea trials again, sources said.

    The aircraft carrier, which can easily hold about 30 fighter jets and helicopters, will now go for aviation trials. “Touch-and-go exercises by fighters and various other flight profiles will also be undertaken,” officials said.

    The towering 284 metre-long and 60-metre-high Vikramaditya is fitted with modern communication systems, a protective coating, a telephone exchange, pumps, hygiene and galley equipment, lifts and many more facilities. Officials said that at any given time, there would be a 2,000-strong staff on the completely remodelled aircraft carrier, which has an extended flight deck and a full runway with a ski jump and arrestor wires. The vessel has new engines, boilers, generators, electrical machinery, communication systems and distillation plants.

    As India’s requirements grew and the shipyard lagged behind in adhering to schedules, the price of retrofit soared. It is estimated that the final cost would have gone up to around $2.3 billion. India had bought Admiral Gorshkov in 2005 for $947 million, renamed it Vikramaditya and gave it to the Russian shipyard for refitting and turning it into a modern aircraft carrier.


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    MiGs touch down on the Vikramaditya’s deck

    MiGs touch down on the Vikramaditya’s deck


    The final phase of tests on the INS Vikramaditya commenced on Monday, August 5, with a joint practice mission involving naval aircraft from Russia’s Northern Fleet. The mission, in which MiG-29s performed several approaches at different altitudes and a touchdown on the aircraft carrier’s deck, was led by RSK MiG chief pilot Mikhail Belyayev.

    Around this time a year ago, Belyayev flew over the Vikramaditya’s deck together with test pilot Nikolai Diorditsa, who has been accorded the Hero of the Russian Federation title. The test pilots flew 517 sorties – including 41 landings and 41 take-offs from the aircraft carrier’s deck – in July and August 2012, testing the aircraft, the fuelling and flight support equipment, the aircraft lifts, its launch assist systems and arresting gear.

    Overall, the commissioning team had no complaints about the work of the aircraft wing or the operation of the ship’s support systems. Representatives of the Indian Navy were also satisfied. But the testing wasn’t completed in full; night-time take-offs and landings did not take place, for example, because of a serious failure of the ship’s power plant. The fire-proof protection of all eight boilers gave in to extreme temperatures.

    As a result, the aircraft carrier was returned to Sevmash last autumn to undergo a complicated nine-month overhaul with assistance from representatives of the Baltic Shipyard (where the boilers were manufactured). The deadline was duly met, and the aircraft carrier, complete with repaired boilers, sailed into the White Sea on July 3. The ship passed every other trial a day before Navy Day and developed the top speed of 29.3 knots under regular load at full displacement.

    According to earlier plans, the full testing cycle involving an aircraft wing and maritime training for the Indian crew is scheduled for completion by October 15. After that, one month will be allotted to eliminate any minor flaws. The INS Vikramaditya should be handed over to the Indian Navy in November.

    Delay in air defence system

    The Vikramaditya will have to wait another 3 years for a air defence weapon, The New Indian Express reported on Monday.

    The delay in getting the Long Range Surface-to-Air Missile or LR-SAM will be at the Indian end, the paper said, adding that India decided to develop it jointly with Israel and the project is facing delays.

    The aircraft carrier will be retrofitted with a Russian-origin AK-630 rapid fire gun, during its first and immediate refit on arrival in India, the paper said.

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    Re: MiGs touch down on the Vikramaditya’s deck

    Step by Step we are getting closure to final clearance and the Beast joining IN.

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    Re: MiGs touch down on the Vikramaditya’s deck

    [MENTION=1577]contract killer[/MENTION] [MENTION=3617]RajPatel[/MENTION] [MENTION=406]ManojKumar[/MENTION] How much protection it has against an EMP?
    And
    how large will be the CBG i.e. How many support ships?
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    Re: MiGs touch down on the Vikramaditya’s deck

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha1 View Post
    [MENTION=1577]contract killer[/MENTION] [MENTION=3617]RajPatel[/MENTION] [MENTION=406]ManojKumar[/MENTION] How much protection it has against an EMP?
    And
    how large will be the CBG i.e. How many support ships?
    Fibre optic cables have been used on INS Vikarmaditya, which is immune to EMP.

    Plus there are many other counter measures too. So no worries.

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    Re: MiGs touch down on the Vikramaditya’s deck

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha1 View Post
    [MENTION=1577]contract killer[/MENTION] [MENTION=3617]RajPatel[/MENTION] [MENTION=406]ManojKumar[/MENTION] How much protection it has against an EMP?
    And
    how large will be the CBG i.e. How many support ships?
    around 7 ships in general, but it can vary depending on threat perceptions.
    EMP Protection will be good enough to take care of conventional EMP bombs.

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    Re: MiGs touch down on the Vikramaditya’s deck

    Quote Originally Posted by contract killer View Post
    Fibre optic cables have been used on INS Vikarmaditya, which is immune to EMP.

    Plus there are many other counter measures too. So no worries.
    What about a kilo-ton NEMP ?
    It can dissable the CBG i am sure!
    *another Q!
    What If the CM400 akg hits the super structure i.e. The command center, will it render it disabled?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agnostic_Indian View Post
    around 7 ships in general, but it can vary depending on threat perceptions.
    Incase of Pakistan?
    Btw what is the Combat Radius of the CBG?
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    Re: MiGs touch down on the Vikramaditya’s deck

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha1 View Post
    What about a kilo-ton NEMP ?
    It can dissable the CBG i am sure!
    *another Q!
    What If the CM400 akg hits the super structure i.e. The command center, will it render it disabled?
    to fire CM400, plane will need to come atleast 180kms closer to the AC.

    And with our current maritime early warning system, i find it little difficult. As during war time, when all our assets will be on super alert, i don't see any JF's escaping our eyes.

    And for Kilo-ton NEMP....... well counter measure are in place. CBG will carry all counter measures.

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    Re: MiGs touch down on the Vikramaditya’s deck

    Quote Originally Posted by contract killer View Post
    And for Kilo-ton NEMP....... well counter measure are in place. CBG will carry all counter measures.
    Currently there is No counter measure strong enough to resist a NEMP according to my knowlege.
    In Which seaboard will it be placed?
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    Re: MiGs touch down on the Vikramaditya’s deck

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha1 View Post
    Currently there is No counter measure strong enough to resist a NEMP according to my knowlege.
    In Which seaboard will it be placed?
    Agreed current Barak-1 is not sufficient to counter N tipped incoming missile.

    But Barak 8 will take care of this issue.

    Maitri will also serve purpose to some extent.

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    Re: MiGs touch down on the Vikramaditya’s deck

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha1 View Post
    Incase of Pakistan?
    Btw what is the Combat Radius of the CBG?
    around 850km, just on internal fuel.

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