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    Good statistics. Looking at the Pashtun tilt in Balochistan, the Baloch nationalist terrorists allege that the Baloch population in the province has been diluted with the large number of Pashtuns. Anyways, it is an important element that prevents 'serious' secessionist tendencies for the province.

    Also, there is a lot of uncertainty in FATA with the increased military operations, but good things are coming out of it as well. Militant hideouts keep getting destroyed, government writ is being restored in more & more regions, militant violence from FATA into KPK has decreased; & even militant violence in FATA is decreasing, with the increased role of Lashkars against the militants. It is important that Pakistan tackles the menace of militancy on its land.
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    I really wouldn't care too much about these surveys, they have been known to give doubtful output, Balochistan is not going anywhere.

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    Russian TV Says Balochistan Liberation Army Is USA Dirty Dog

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    By exposing on Russia TV (RT), will it help to prevent USA from interfering on Balouchistan? or Russia some interesting to interfere too?

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    Mirza that is a wonderful news that others are seeing through what Americans are doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorRX707 View Post
    By exposing on Russia TV (RT), will it help to prevent USA from interfering on Balouchistan? or Russia some interesting to interfere too?
    Russia wants to reach warm shores too but they are trying to work with Pakistan govt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan_B View Post
    Russia wants to reach warm shores too but they are trying to work with Pakistan govt
    Even China want some access too. That's pretty bad mouse-cat situations from great powers, Pakistan is at risks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorRX707 View Post
    Even China want some access too. That's pretty bad mouse-cat situations from great powers, Pakistan is at risks.
    But China and Russia offer us trading opportunities whilst America offers violence
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    Every country including Russia, China and US will do what is for their own interest, if Russians didn't want some access they wouldn't even be touching on this news, but at least their methods of propagation are cleaner then those supporting proxies in order to cause instability in our region.
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    You would think that after Libya and Syria the American trick of infiltrating and using minorities to try to create destabilise countries is a bit exposed. I am surprised that anyone dies Americas bidding
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    There is absolutely no truth in this report presented by the Russian TV. The United States has no interest in destabilizing Pakistan. In fact, the U.S. wishes to see a safe and stable Pakistan for the sake of stabilizing the region. The White House and the State Department have repeatedly stated that Baluchistan is an internal Pakistani matter. This is the official policy of the United States.

    Conspiracy theories are dime a dozen and we have to take them with a grain of salt, especially reports that do not cite even a single credible source.


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    Ground realities are very difficult to understand the real situation. I always hope for a good when everything seemingly wrong. Maybe there is an external hand involved in it but it looks like eternal false dis-information rumoring over there.
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    Centcom has been trolled by Russian TV

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    Quote Originally Posted by US CENTCOM View Post
    There is absolutely no truth in this report presented by the Russian TV. The United States has no interest in destabilizing Pakistan. In fact, the U.S. wishes to see a safe and stable Pakistan for the sake of stabilizing the region. The White House and the State Department have repeatedly stated that Baluchistan is an internal Pakistani matter. This is the official policy of the United States.

    Conspiracy theories are dime a dozen and we have to take them with a grain of salt, especially reports that do not cite even a single credible source.


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    Captsin Kreidal - chill out dude. The Russians are just having a laugh. Dont need to deny it so strongly...... unless you are trying to hide something!! ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by US CENTCOM View Post
    There is absolutely no truth in this report presented by the Russian TV. The United States has no interest in destabilizing Pakistan. In fact, the U.S. wishes to see a safe and stable Pakistan for the sake of stabilizing the region. The White House and the State Department have repeatedly stated that Baluchistan is an internal Pakistani matter. This is the official policy of the United States.

    Conspiracy theories are dime a dozen and we have to take them with a grain of salt, especially reports that do not cite even a single credible source.


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    So when can we expect the US to declare groups such as the BLA, BRA, BLF (that have openly accepted attacks on civilians - non-Baluch settlers, pro Pakistan teachers, professors, civil servants etc.) as 'Terrorist Entities' and put the leadership of these groups, hiding in Europe, on the list of 'terrorists'?

    Without the US taking such actions claims to the effect of 'US wants to see a stable Pakistan' come across as disingenuous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKong View Post
    Captsin Kreidal - chill out dude. The Russians are just having a laugh. Dont need to deny it so strongly...... unless you are trying to hide something!! ?
    Actually, I believe there is a need for the US to not just 'deny strongly' through public statements, but also 'demonstrate tangibly' that it is not being disingenuous with these denials by officially designating the entities mentioned in my post above as 'terrorist entities'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by US CENTCOM View Post
    There is absolutely no truth in this report presented by the Russian TV. The United States has no interest in destabilizing Pakistan. In fact, the U.S. wishes to see a safe and stable Pakistan for the sake of stabilizing the region. The White House and the State Department have repeatedly stated that Baluchistan is an internal Pakistani matter. This is the official policy of the United States.

    Conspiracy theories are dime a dozen and we have to take them with a grain of salt, especially reports that do not cite even a single credible source.


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    Nice words as usual CENTCOM...but how about some actions? Why is BLA and BLF still not a declared terrorist organisation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AgNoStIc MuSliM View Post
    Actually, I believe there is a need for the US to not just 'deny strongly' through public statements, but also 'demonstrate tangibly' that it is not being disingenuous with these denials by officially designating the entities mentioned in my post above as 'terrorist entities'.
    good point this is one of the occasions when they need to do more

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgNoStIc MuSliM View Post
    So when can we expect the US to declare groups such as the BLA, BRA, BLF (that have openly accepted attacks on civilians - non-Baluch settlers, pro Pakistan teachers, professors, civil servants etc.) as 'Terrorist Entities' and put the leadership of these groups, hiding in Europe, on the list of 'terrorists'?

    Without the US taking such actions claims to the effect of 'US wants to see a stable Pakistan' come across as disingenuous.
    I do hope Captain Kriedal comes back and reads this comment and sees the consensus of opinion in particular this post by Agno and realize how we struggle to believe his words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgNoStIc MuSliM View Post
    Actually, I believe there is a need for the US to not just 'deny strongly' through public statements, but also 'demonstrate tangibly' that it is not being disingenuous with these denials by officially designating the entities mentioned in my post above as 'terrorist entities'.

    Exactly - i think action speaks louder than these gentle words

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