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    Quote Originally Posted by Pak92 View Post
    Thanks for this. Interesting read
    The article assumes that PAF will only be able to fire the missile from withing Pakistan's territory?
    Why this assumption? This is not a GLCM.. The JF-17 can fly out far into the oceanic airspace and fire the missile...
    So why put a range of 200KM only for blockadinghostile ships,as the ships can be targetted at much greather distance
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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    Quote Originally Posted by Jagga View Post
    The article assumes that PAF will only be able to fire the missile from withing Pakistan's territory?
    Why this assumption? This is not a GLCM.. The JF-17 can fly out far into the oceanic airspace and fire the missile...
    So why put a range of 200KM only for blockadinghostile ships,as the ships can be targetted at much greather distance
    According to the article the IN ships will be Max 200 km from the Coast. And as the Max range of CM400 IS 250km so the aircraft will obviously be flying on pakistani land when they fire the missile!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagga View Post
    Yes true....most have been re-fitted in Russia for being able to fire Klub class missiles...But thats the only type of Cruise missile these subs can fire and no other at the moment.
    and Klub class have limited range....
    I didn't claim anything more, out of 10 sub 8 is already equipped with the upgraded version of club -S cruise
    missiles which has 275km -300km range, we don't need greater range missile for naval blockade purpose, and shore attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha1 View Post
    According to the article the IN ships will be Max 200 km from the Coast. And as the Max range of CM400 IS 250km so the aircraft will obviously be flying on pakistani land when they fire the missile!

    Minimum should be the word here...as a missile carrying JF-17 can target Blockading ships at further than 200 KM
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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnostic_Indian View Post
    I didn't claim anything more, out of 10 sub 8 is already equipped with the upgraded version of club -S cruise
    missiles which has 275km -300km range,
    Yes true

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnostic_Indian View Post
    we don't need greater range missile for naval blockade purpose, and shore attack.
    That is debatable....because PN subs too have the capability of firing anti ship missiles....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagga View Post
    Minimum should be the word here...as a missile carrying JF-17 can target Blockading ships at further than 200 KM
    Maximum is used because that is the maximum distance the IN can be at, and impose an effective blockade. Beyond that, it won't really be a blockade at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagga View Post
    Yes true



    That is debatable....because PN subs too have the capability of firing anti ship missiles....
    of course PN will put up fight,I don't deny that, every platform, weapon and technology has counter technology and counter weapons.CM400 also is a good weapon, and a threat to our frigates and destroyers which will come close(300 km from pak shore) for the blockade.far behind will be our CBG operating from a safe distance.

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    Naval blockade will be enforced once our fighters sweeps out the land based defense of Pakistan navy in a SEAD mission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoKeMon View Post
    Naval blockade will be enforced once our fighters sweeps out the land based defense of Pakistan navy in a SEAD mission.
    Com'on that is Utopian ! That was a fanboy post It's not like our AD is sitting ducks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha1 View Post
    Com'on that is Utopian ! That was a fanboy post It's not like our AD is sitting ducks!
    Mate its a strategy post and I have not commented on the easiness by which it can be achieved.

    And in war no one sits idle, its just one better other one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoKeMon View Post
    Naval blockade will be enforced once our fighters sweeps out the land based defense of Pakistan navy in a SEAD mission.
    Yep the mig21s will rule the air. Delusional is the politest word I can use.
    Cant stop a few Chinese fellows crossing your border and laughing at your jawans......yet you want to talk big regarding Pakistan. Stop the drivel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hope View Post
    Yep the mig21s will rule the air. Delusional is the politest word I can use.
    Cant stop a few Chinese fellows crossing your border and laughing at your jawans......yet you want to talk big regarding Pakistan. Stop the drivel
    Read my post above to get better understanding. Seems you lack comprehension skills.

    Ok, we are afraid of china but we can/have cut you into two. We might do it again, might be 3 this time, so stop the drive.

    And then we occupy chinese land as well.

    BTW Migs are better then JF-17. And IN navy operates Mig-29 SMT standards along with Su 30 MKI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoKeMon View Post
    Ok, we are afraid of china but we can/have cut you into two. We might do it again, might be 3 this time, so stop the drive.


    BTW Migs are better then JF-17. And IN navy operates Mig-29 SMT standards along with Su 30 MKI.
    Only in a kamikaze act. Feel sorry for pilots that fly these death traps

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    Now dont come up with chinese might and Pak Nukes. We are too afraid of the duo and we extremely fearfully occupy chinese land and pakistani lands. We are too sorry and thankful to china and pak not annihilating us for our deepest of crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pak92 View Post
    Only in a kamikaze act. Feel sorry for pilots that fly these death traps
    We feel sorry for that as well.

    Its because of their age that they are falling but technically they are superb fighter. Mig bisons are firing BVR way before any pakistani jets.
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    Com'on Mig29 is a historic failiure!!! Mig 21 is a death trap, tejas is delayed.. What else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha1 View Post
    Com'on Mig29 is a historic failiure!!! Mig 21 is a death trap, tejas is delayed.. What else?
    Are you saying Mig 29 SMT standard is a fail?

    Ok tell me what fighters are operated by PN to counter Mig29 and Su MKI?
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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    Quote Originally Posted by PoKeMon View Post
    We feel sorry for that as well.

    Its because of their age that they are falling but technically they are superb fighter. Mig bisons are firing BVR way before any pakistani jets.
    Flying MiG-21 violates fundamental right to life

    Flying a MiG-21 amounted to “violation of his fundamental right to life”, a serving wing commander has told the Delhi high court, seeking redressal after a regular flight exercise in 2005 went awry, leaving him with debilitating neck and back pain that has rendered him unfit for flying and even day-to-day tasks.

    The court on Tuesday directed the Centre to provide a list of MiG-21 crashes that have taken place till date and posted the matter for October 10, 2013.

    The petition was filed by Sanjeet Singh Kaila, a serving officer in theIndian Air Force, who cited “violation of his fundamental right to life, especially the right to work in a safe environment” under Article 21 of the Constitution.

    In his plea, Kaila said he was posted at Air Force Station Nal in Rajasthan as a Squadron Leader in 2005. On January 4 that year, he embarked on a regular flight exercise along with three other pilots. “Immediately after take-off, the petitioner experienced a drift to the left side of the aircraft. Simultaneously, the petitioner was informed by the other pilot flying the second aircraft, of a fire at the rear end of his aircraft. Assessing the emergency, the petitioner promptly carried out all the essential directives and got the tyres of the aircraft down for a landing,” the petition said.

    “The petitioner performed all the aforementioned actions despite the rear of the aircraft being engulfed in thick fire. Despite a near-complete engine/control failure and at grave risk to his own life, the petitioner continued to stay put in an almost uncontrollable aircraft so as to steer it away to safety from a nearby village… To save human life, the petitioner ejected only seconds before the crash of the aircraft.”

    Kaila said following the incident, he was injured and later forced to discontinue flying after a comprehensive medical examination showed he was suffering from cervicalgia and disc bulges of vertebrae (cervical spine). “The medical report also clearly mentions that the petitioner was rendered unfit for flying duties because of the incident. He was additionally instructed and advised by the doctors to even refrain from performing even day-to-day tasks,” it said.

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    Now your post shows complete disrespect for anyone flying this flying coffin. Do have so little regard for Indian pilots lives?

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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    Quote Originally Posted by PoKeMon View Post
    Are you saying Mig 29 SMT standard is a fail?

    Ok tell me what fighters are operated by PN to counter Mig29 and Su MKI?
    PN doesn't but PAF does. And I believe you know that the jets PAF operate are capable enough to tackle both of them!
    topic is CM-400AKG and not this ..
    Can you answer the question I asked CK a couple pages back!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha1 View Post
    [MENTION=1577]contract killer[/MENTION] [MENTION=2138]manoj[/MENTION] kumar the above article states that the IN ships should be at a max distance of 200km to enforce a blockade!
    That makes them very vunreble and At 4+ mach I think that even the CIWS will be useless!
    What say?
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