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    CM-400AKG, tough job for Indian Navy
    China has developed a
    hypersonic Aircraft carrier killer missile and has been deployed by the PAF.
    The missile has been described as the PAF’s Hypersonic ‘Carrier
    Killer Missile’ Pakistan has deployed a new
    hypersonic long-range air-launched missile that officials in the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) have described as “a hypersonic
    aircraft carrier killer missile”.
    The CM-400AKG is a Mach 4 plus- capable air-to-surface weapon
    developed in China and now in service with JF-17 fighter aircraft of the PAF. The weapon, designated CM400AKG,
    was designed and developed in China by the China Aerospace
    Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC) and was revealed at Airshow China 2012, held in Zhuhai in November.
    The CM-400AKG is now part of the operational weapon set of the PAF’s JF-17 Thunder multirole
    fighter.
    “This is a mature weapon that has been fully tested. It is not conceptual. It is in service,”
    Air Commodore Mahmood Khalid, PAF JF-17 Deputy Project Director stated. “The CM-400AKG is a very
    high-speed missile that is very tough to intercept. It hits the
    target at Mach 4 or above and its kinetic impact alone is enough to destroy any high-value target,
    like an aircraft carrier.”
    The CM-400AKG first appeared, briefly, in public at last year’s
    Dubai Airshow, when a placard for the weapon was placed
    alongside a PAF JF-17 – and then removed. The weapon itself was
    not shown. At the time PAF personnel acknowledged it was
    a new Chinese-built air-to-surface stand-off missile.
    However, the initial assumption that it was a derivative of the C-802 anti-ship missile has proved to be very wide of the
    mark.
    The CM-400AKG is a 400 kg solid-rocket-powered weapon that
    can be fitted with either a penetration or blast/ fragmentation warhead. It is a fire-and-forget precision-guided weapon that can be fitted with
    several seeker options, which are
    understood to include an active radar seeker and an imaging
    infrared seeker with target- recognition (TR) capabilities. PAF
    sources say the missile can be pre-programmed with digital imagery for highly precise attacks against fixed sites in TR mode, but it can also be re-targeted in flight by using the
    radar seeker option.
    The range of the CM-400AKG is estimated to be in the 200-250km class(Indian navy ships will need to be at max 200km away from Pakistani coastline, to
    enforce an effective blockade).
    It
    is designed for use against fixed or what were described as “slow moving” targets. CASIC data
    indicates that after launch the CM-400AKG climbs to high altitude and terminates with a
    high-speed dive on the target.
    The PAF describes the missile’s impact velocity as “hypersonic” (> Mach 5).
    Both CASIC and the PAF note that the CM-400AKG has been
    developed as a JF-17 Aircraft carrier killer weapon. The PAF
    currently has two squadrons of approximately 36 JF-17s operational.
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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    [MENTION=1577]contract killer[/MENTION] [MENTION=2138]manoj[/MENTION] kumar the above article states that the IN ships should be at a max distance of 200km to enforce a blockade!
    That makes them very vunreble and At 4+ mach I think that even the CIWS system will be useless!
    What say?
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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    I think CK may be able to do justice to this.But I think it is now well in the public domain that it may be dangerous and difficult for India to implement or enforce a blockade

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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    That's not true, our surface ships can be far away (around 500km -300km), we have sub with land attack capacity also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agnostic_Indian View Post
    That's not true, our surface ships can be far away (around 500km -300km), we have sub with land attack capacity also.
    Curently India has only one submarine the sindhurakshak with Klub class missiles for land attack and anti-ship role.
    Only one Klub class can be used for Land attack and that too for Coastal targets only..
    3M-54E – anti-ship missile, 200km range, supersonic terminal speed, 200kg explosive warhead

    3M-54E1 – anti-ship missile, 300km range, subsonic terminal speed, 400kg explosive warhead

    3M-14E – land attack missile, 275km range, subsonic terminal speed, 400kg explosive warhead

    91RE1 – anti-submarine missile, uses an anti-submarine torpedo on terminal stage..
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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    Quote Originally Posted by Jagga View Post
    Curently India has only one submarine the sindhurakshak with Klub class missiles for land attack and anti-ship role.
    Only one Klub class can be used for Land attack and that too for Coastal targets only..
    3M-54E anti-ship missile, 200km range, supersonic terminal speed, 200kg explosive warhead

    3M-54E1 anti-ship missile, 300km range, subsonic terminal speed, 400kg explosive warhead

    3M-14E land attack missile, 275km range, subsonic terminal speed, 400kg explosive warhead

    91RE1 anti-submarine missile, uses an anti-submarine torpedo on terminal stage..

    there are 10 subs under Sindhughosh-class + 1 akula2 class sub.


    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindh...lass_submarine
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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha1 View Post
    [MENTION=1577]contract killer[/MENTION] [MENTION=2138]manoj[/MENTION] kumar the above article states that the IN ships should be at a max distance of 200km to enforce a blockade!
    That makes them very vunreble and At 4+ mach I think that even the CIWS system will be useless!
    What say?
    [MENTION=3777]Alpha1[/MENTION]....

    Before i comment, pls post some news related to its test and achievements (Neutral credible source).

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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    Thanks for linking mine and [MENTION=813]S.Y.A[/MENTION]'s blog, [MENTION=3777]Alpha1[/MENTION]

    We originally got it from here
    http://www.asian-defence.net/2013/06...ypersonic.html
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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    Little contradicting claims............

    One from Chinese....


    Another from Chinese Airshow..


    Thing to notice, fins on both pic are diff of size.

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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    Quote Originally Posted by contract killer View Post
    Little contradicting claims............

    One from Chinese....


    Another from Chinese Airshow..


    Thing to notice, fins on both pic are diff of size.
    I guess first one is for ground attack,fixed targets and second one is for slow moving targets, ships etc.

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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    Quote Originally Posted by contract killer View Post
    [MENTION=3777]Alpha1[/MENTION]....

    Before i comment, pls post some news related to its test and achievements (Neutral credible source).
    well, it is common knowlege that it is alread in service for about a couple of years and my sources say 12 of them.
    There is no test video yet!
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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha1 View Post
    [MENTION=1577]contract killer[/MENTION] [MENTION=2138]manoj[/MENTION] kumar the above article states that the IN ships should be at a max distance of 200km to enforce a blockade!
    That makes them very vunreble and At 4+ mach I think that even the CIWS system will be useless!
    What say?
    The blockade days are long gone-
    Thanks to the recent acquisitions by PN and Gawadar Port-
    The best way to counter the blockade was to involve a powerful third party- who else could be better than China- -
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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    Quote Originally Posted by contract killer View Post
    [MENTION=3777]Alpha1[/MENTION]....

    Before i comment, pls post some news related to its test and achievements (Neutral credible source).
    Being a Derivative of Weishi Guided rockets,Its a cold war relic,Botched and on steroids...
    Weishi rockets have been in service for too long for any need of extensive testing..The "Steroids" , the modern electronics as in Guidence systems and seekers have been tested on their own seperately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agnostic_Indian View Post
    there are 10 subs under Sindhughosh-class + 1 akula2 class sub.

    Yes true....most have been re-fitted in Russia for being able to fire Klub class missiles...But thats the only type of Cruise missile these subs can fire and no other at the moment.
    and Klub class have limited range....
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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha1 View Post

    CM-400AKG, tough job for Indian Navy
    China has developed a
    hypersonic Aircraft carrier killer missile and has been deployed by the PAF.
    The missile has been described as the PAFs Hypersonic Carrier
    Killer Missile Pakistan has deployed a new
    hypersonic long-range air-launched missile that officials in the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) have described as a hypersonic
    aircraft carrier killer missile.
    The CM-400AKG is a Mach 4 plus- capable air-to-surface weapon
    developed in China and now in service with JF-17 fighter aircraft of the PAF. The weapon, designated CM400AKG,
    was designed and developed in China by the China Aerospace
    Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC) and was revealed at Airshow China 2012, held in Zhuhai in November.
    The CM-400AKG is now part of the operational weapon set of the PAFs JF-17 Thunder multirole
    fighter.
    This is a mature weapon that has been fully tested. It is not conceptual. It is in service,
    Air Commodore Mahmood Khalid, PAF JF-17 Deputy Project Director stated. The CM-400AKG is a very
    high-speed missile that is very tough to intercept. It hits the
    target at Mach 4 or above and its kinetic impact alone is enough to destroy any high-value target,
    like an aircraft carrier.
    The CM-400AKG first appeared, briefly, in public at last years
    Dubai Airshow, when a placard for the weapon was placed
    alongside a PAF JF-17 and then removed. The weapon itself was
    not shown. At the time PAF personnel acknowledged it was
    a new Chinese-built air-to-surface stand-off missile.
    However, the initial assumption that it was a derivative of the C-802 anti-ship missile has proved to be very wide of the
    mark.
    The CM-400AKG is a 400 kg solid-rocket-powered weapon that
    can be fitted with either a penetration or blast/ fragmentation warhead. It is a fire-and-forget precision-guided weapon that can be fitted with
    several seeker options, which are
    understood to include an active radar seeker and an imaging
    infrared seeker with target- recognition (TR) capabilities. PAF
    sources say the missile can be pre-programmed with digital imagery for highly precise attacks against fixed sites in TR mode, but it can also be re-targeted in flight by using the
    radar seeker option.
    The range of the CM-400AKG is estimated to be in the 200-250km class(Indian navy ships will need to be at max 200km away from Pakistani coastline, to
    enforce an effective blockade).
    It
    is designed for use against fixed or what were described as slow moving targets. CASIC data
    indicates that after launch the CM-400AKG climbs to high altitude and terminates with a
    high-speed dive on the target.
    The PAF describes the missiles impact velocity as hypersonic (> Mach 5).
    Both CASIC and the PAF note that the CM-400AKG has been
    developed as a JF-17 Aircraft carrier killer weapon. The PAF
    currently has two squadrons of approximately 36 JF-17s operational.
    Thanks for this. Interesting read

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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha1 View Post
    well, it is common knowlege that it is alread in service for about a couple of years and my sources say 12 of them.
    There is no test video yet!
    CM-400 AKG
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=qxcwnzyNoI0

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    With this, India can only dream of a blockade!
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    Re: PAFs carrier killer - CM-400 AKG

    Quote Originally Posted by JonAsad View Post
    The blockade days are long gone-
    Thanks to the recent acquisitions by PN and Gawadar Port-
    The best way to counter the blockade was to involve a powerful third party- who else could be better than China- -
    So true !!! LOL.

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